Sabrina 0-200A engine from Sabrina Aircraft Manufacturing

What do you get when you combine a Rolls Royce engine with parts from a TCM
and Superior engine? In one case, a Sabrina O-200A:

http://sabrina.aero/

It's too bad the website doesn't give more info on the building of the
engine.

Tony

Anthony W wrote:
What do you get when you combine a Rolls Royce engine with parts from
a TCM
and Superior engine? In one case, a Sabrina O-200A:

http://sabrina.aero/

It's too bad the website doesn't give more info on the building of the
engine.

Tony


I'm impressed and all that this girl built this plane and I haven't
really followed this thread but how does she say it isn't a Zenith. Sure
she made a major modification to the panel but come on. And how in the
hell does she make this claim.

"As an aircraft manufacture, Sabrina's most exciting moment was, "When I
was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger Warning
Label."

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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Anthony W wrote:
What do you get when you combine a Rolls Royce engine with parts from
a TCM
and Superior engine? In one case, a Sabrina O-200A:

http://sabrina.aero/

It's too bad the website doesn't give more info on the building of the
engine.

Tony


I'm impressed and all that this girl built this plane and I haven't
really followed this thread but how does she say it isn't a Zenith. Sure
she made a major modification to the panel but come on. And how in the
hell does she make this claim.

I believe the model name is within the bounds of the rules - I think I've
seen other homebuilders do the same with little or no design changes. As
you know, I believe she has to record herself as the manufacturer because
Zenith didn't build the plane.

"As an aircraft manufacture, Sabrina's most exciting moment was, "When I
was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger Warning
Label."

That last is a good question. I started this thread when I ran across a
posting from her on Matronic's Zenith list and followed the link she posted
to her web site. I believe you subscribe to that list (I don't anymore -
just read some of the postings now and then via the public access web page)
so you might consider politely asking her via direct e-mail. Looks like she
subscribed to the Matronics list within the last week and already is
moderately active.

On Feb 11, 2008 4:21 PM, Jim Logajan wrote:

I believe the model name is within the bounds of the rules - I think I've
seen other homebuilders do the same with little or no design changes. As
you know, I believe she has to record herself as the manufacturer because
Zenith didn't build the plane.



Yea but changing the model name and one of the comments on the very
limited website makes it sound like she wants you to think she
redesigned the plane. That said she did make one hell of a redesign on
the panel.


"As an aircraft manufacture, Sabrina's most exciting moment was,
"When I
was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger Warning
Label."

That last is a good question. I started this thread when I ran across a
posting from her on Matronic's Zenith list and followed the link she
posted
to her web site. I believe you subscribe to that list (I don't anymore -
just read some of the postings now and then via the public access web
page)
so you might consider politely asking her via direct e-mail. Looks
like she
subscribed to the Matronics list within the last week and already is
moderately active.




I did and it is under the (special that ended 1/31/08) E-LSA rules and
I can't find anything to counter that in the rules. As far as I'm
concerned it's a real bad idea from a liability standpoint. I told her
that in an e-mail right after I told her that I thought she was an
amazing young lady.

I was wondering that same thing!

Scott


Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

And how in the
hell does she make this claim.

"As an aircraft manufacture, Sabrina's most exciting moment was, "When I
was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger Warning
Label."

--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)

wrote in message ...
Shure glad she is from Chicago area. It will knock out a little wind
out of Mayor Daily's mad campaign against GA. Now he is against
budding youth accomplishments.

On Feb 10, 5:47 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
What do you get when you combine a Rolls Royce engine with parts from a TCM
and Superior engine? In one case, a Sabrina O-200A:

http://sabrina.aero/

Follow the link to the four YouTube videos for more of the story. Seems to
be an impressive accomplishment for a 14 year old.

My guess is that Sabrina Spacecraft Manufacturing will have interplanetary
spaceships available in a decade or two.



Met her at OSH last year at the Young Eagles awards ceremony. Sharp kid for sure with many supporters...

On Feb 10, 5:47*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
What do you get when you combine a Rolls Royce engine with parts from a TCM
and Superior engine? In one case, a Sabrina O-200A:

http://sabrina.aero/

Follow the link to the four YouTube videos for more of the story. Seems to
be an impressive accomplishment for a 14 year old.

My guess is that Sabrina Spacecraft Manufacturing will have interplanetary
spaceships available in a decade or two.

Sabrina rocks!!

I don't get this statement:

As an aircraft manufacturer, Sabrina's most exciting moment was "When
I was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger
Warning label."

Can someone explain?
--
They that die by famine die by inches.
~ Matthew Henry

Bob Fry wrote:
I don't get this statement:

As an aircraft manufacturer, Sabrina's most exciting moment was "When
I was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger
Warning label."

Can someone explain?

Gig mentions how she seems to have done this in a post elsewhere on this
thread. As best I can tell, she used the E-LSA rules that ended on Jan 31
of this year that allowed illegal "fat ultralights" to be registered under
that status. Note that her plane is still considered experimental, but it
seems there is no "amateur built" in the FAA's designation (EAB vs ELSA). I
suspect it has pretty much the same operating limitations. Bottom line is
it doesn't seem to mean much.

Bob Fry wrote:
I don't get this statement:

As an aircraft manufacturer, Sabrina's most exciting moment was "When
I was allowed to remove the 'Built by an Amateur' FAA passenger
Warning label."

Can someone explain?

She got her AW certificate under the E-LSA rules not the E-HB rules. In
what was probably an oversight on the FAAs part there is no requirement
for the standard disclaimer to appear.

These rule apply long term to aircraft that are produced from kits that
EXACTLY match an aircraft built under the less stringent (than certified
aircraft) LSA standards. Her particular plane, since it is from a kit
that doesn't exactly match a LSA would not normally qualify. But there
was an exemption to get the fat ultralight into the system that expired
1/31/08 and she got her AW cert under that.

What I don't understand is what she means by being allowed to remove the
warning. The only thing I can think is that she put it on there and they
told her or she found out that it wasn't required.