Thielert (Diesel Engines)

On Feb 16, 4:53*am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
I see your point and I think it's a good one. As I said before, I
smell the rat of marketing...

Cheers

You keep want to blame Marketing. Sure they may have said we need to
have an easy to use FADEC system but it was the engineers that decided
not to have the limp home mode.

Interesting. Why would engineers decide that?

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 16, 4:53 am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
I see your point and I think it's a good one. As I said before, I
smell the rat of marketing...
Cheers
You keep want to blame Marketing. Sure they may have said we need to
have an easy to use FADEC system but it was the engineers that decided
not to have the limp home mode.

Interesting. Why would engineers decide that?

Cheers

Why would marketing?

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
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In particular regard to this installation? I have no problem with computer
governed engines, once tey aren't reliant on th ecomputer to run which
isn't the case with any other engine I know of.


Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that will
run without the computer?

Or, are you in MX mode?

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
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In particular regard to this installation? I have no problem with
computer governed engines, once tey aren't reliant on th ecomputer to
run which isn't the case with any other engine I know of.


Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that
will run without the computer?



Nope. I know the older common rail ones didn't have an electronic
computer, but the thielert does.
In any case, I said computer governed engines, and I didn't specify
iesels because I was mndful of the airplane I fly at the moment, whihc
does have an ECu, with manual reversion.



Or, are you in MX mode?


What, stuck in front of a computer playing flight sim knowing that a
lack of electrons won't kill me?


What do you think?




Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
...

Or, are you in MX mode?


What, stuck in front of a computer playing flight sim knowing that a
lack of electrons won't kill me?


No - ranting and raving about something about which you have no clue.

Like this thread.

fujktard.

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
...

Or, are you in MX mode?


What, stuck in front of a computer playing flight sim knowing that a
lack of electrons won't kill me?


No - ranting and raving about something about which you have no clue.

So, you're saying that the enge will keep running if the electricity stops?

Like this thread.

fujktard.

Oh dear, My opinion of you has increased form non existent to having
noticed you're alive.


Bertie

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote in
news:YeWdnUR3MfqViCvanZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@wideopenwest .com:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
...

Or, are you in MX mode?


What, stuck in front of a computer playing flight sim knowing that a
lack of electrons won't kill me?


No - ranting and raving about something about which you have no clue.

Like this thread.

fujktard.


BTW, it's "fjukktard". you obviously missed the rjubber vjikking helmjut
wars.

Bertie

On Feb 16, 12:01*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote f.

Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that
will run without the computer?

Nope. I know the older common rail ones didn't have an electronic
computer, but the thielert does.

In the first common rail engines, wasn't it a hydraulic (rather than
mechanical cam) system that controlled the injector valve?

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in news:172b31f9-17a6-4737-be7d-
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On Feb 16, 12:01*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote f.

Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that
will run without the computer?

Nope. I know the older common rail ones didn't have an electronic
computer, but the thielert does.

In the first common rail engines, wasn't it a hydraulic (rather than
mechanical cam) system that controlled the injector valve?


AFAIK they were.


Bertie

"WingFlaps" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 12:01 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m wrote f.

Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that
will run without the computer?

Nope. I know the older common rail ones didn't have an electronic
computer, but the thielert does.

In the first common rail engines, wasn't it a hydraulic (rather than
mechanical cam) system that controlled the injector valve?


They are electro-hydraulic. The high pressure injectors are triggered by the
mid pressure hydraulics which are triggered by solenoid valves controlled by
the engine computer. There ain't no mechanical backup - no way - no how. So,
a common rail diesel is 100% dependant on electricity to run. Just like your
Lycoming which won't run if the mags don't send enough electrons to the spark
plug at the right time with NO mechanical backup - no way - no how.


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