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Old November 8th 03, 03:17 AM
Bjørnar Bolsøy
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I'm not sure I see your point, is this supposed to
offset argumenst against the ones responsible for
the greates nuclear buildup so far in human history? :^)


Typical, try to divert the point.


Hardly.

The point is, France
disregarded a long standing UN commitment against nuclear
testing.


That was his point, mine was "Europe tend to respect UN
resolutions".


Was there a resolution preventing it? No, just as there
was no UN resolution *against* armed action against Iraq, in
fact the last resolution passed concerning Iraq threatened
severe actions should Iraq not fully comply with UNSCM.


Indeed. And, didn't Iraq comply?

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pub...line3.htm#2002


Face it,
France and every other nation in Europe abides by the UN when it
fits nicely with their plans and disregards it when it doesn't,
just like US and nearly every other nation on the planet.


I think you are painting this all too black and white.


If you want to do some research I would reccomend some
reading on the US oposition to the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty, which the US has yet to ratify even
though Clinton signed it -- 7 years ago.


Again, diverting the subject. The subject is; Europe always
obeys the UN and the US doesn't.


That was your subject, not mine.


You might notice that France has both signed and
ratified the treaty (in 1998).


After they completed their live testing of their latest
warheads.


They cut the program short due to pressure from the
world, though the story probably doesn't end there.
They needed a steady supply of uranium from the Aussies
which wouldn't guarantee that unless France got in on
the CTBT deal.


The US hasn't had a live test in over 25 years.


That the US won't ratify CTBT seems to indicate they will.


In all, the US track-record on UN vetos, boicots and
non-ratifications is not exactly a shining example of
world cooperation.


And I'm sure if you choose to investigate France, Russia, the UK
and China you'de find similar "track records".


Well, do you have any comments on why the US vetos just about
any resolution dealing with the palestine issue, and other
nations do not? To me it lookes like Sharon has shattered
most efforts made in the past decade to bring about some
hope of peace and stability to the region, and the US seems
determined to support that.


Regards...
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Old November 9th 03, 01:42 PM
BUFDRVR
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Why are French tests worse than US, UK, Russian or Chinese Tests??? We
didn't go against any resolution or even UN position.


Nor did the US in invading Iraq. Why the fuss in Europe?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old November 10th 03, 03:25 AM
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Why are French tests worse than US, UK, Russian or Chinese Tests??? We
didn't go against any resolution or even UN position.


Nor did the US in invading Iraq. Why the fuss in Europe?


BUFDRVR


One does not have to comply with UN resolutions to conduct nuclear tests,
only the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, since testing is no crime. On the other
hand, invading a country is. Even the UN is not entitled to OK an
aggression, only action in self-defence or support of an aggrived side some
aggressor (e.g. Desert Storm in 1991).

Ivan the Bear
=Nothing per-r-rsonal, just business=


 




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