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Old February 23rd 08, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Longworth[_1_]
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On Feb 23, 2:32*pm, terry wrote:
what about feeding the kids every other day.... helps with the obestiy
epdiemic at the same time! :(


Terry,
When my kid was young, we always worried about her being
underweight, not eating enough. The pediatrician had to assure that
kids would eat whatever amount that they needed.
Even if my kid had munched all day, there was no way that she
would get fat eating whole grain foods, fruits and vegetables. The
empty calories in soft drinks and twinkies are the key ingredients of
obesity.
Back to the topic of aviation cost, I truly believe it that if
one is committed to flying, one would find a way to do it. People
don't keep track of their small expenses but they do add up. For
example, brewing your own coffee or heading to Dunkin Donut instead of
Starbuck can easily add up to at least one hour of flying a month.
Hai Longworth
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Old February 23rd 08, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
William Hung[_2_]
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On Feb 23, 2:56*pm, Longworth wrote:
On Feb 23, 2:32*pm, terry wrote:

what about feeding the kids every other day.... helps with the obestiy
epdiemic at the same time! :(


* *Terry,
* * When my kid was young, *we always worried about her being
underweight, not eating enough. *The pediatrician had to assure that
kids would eat whatever amount that they needed.
* * *Even if my kid had munched all day, there was no way that she
would get fat eating whole grain foods, fruits and vegetables. *The
empty calories in soft drinks and twinkies are the key ingredients of
obesity.
* * *Back to the topic of aviation cost, *I truly believe it that if
one is committed to flying, one would find a way to do it. *People
don't keep track of their small expenses but they do add up. *For
example, brewing your own coffee or heading to Dunkin Donut instead of
Starbuck can easily add up to at least one hour of flying a month.
Hai Longworth


I agree Hai, people always seam to not 'watch every penny' as much
when it comes to their hobbies. They/we always find ways to cut back
elsewhere. I bet even MX splurches on hit sim equipment such as a
compfortable chair, memories, high end graphics card, sound system,
high end monitors and joysticks...etc.

Wil
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Old February 23rd 08, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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William Hung writes:

I bet even MX splurches on hit sim equipment such as a
compfortable chair, memories, high end graphics card, sound system,
high end monitors and joysticks...etc.


That is impossible without money.
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Old February 23rd 08, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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"William Hung" wrote in message
...

I bet even MX splurches on hit sim equipment such as a
compfortable chair, memories, high end graphics card, sound system,
high end monitors and joysticks...etc.


MX cries poverty and begs for money, but he's probably on a first-name basis
with every McDonald's employee between his apartment and the school he
teaches at.

I'm sure even if he had all that junk he wouldn't admit it. It wouldn't fit
his image.


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Old February 23rd 08, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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On Feb 24, 6:56*am, Longworth wrote:
On Feb 23, 2:32*pm, terry wrote:

what about feeding the kids every other day.... helps with the obestiy
epdiemic at the same time! :(


* *Terry,
* * When my kid was young, *we always worried about her being
underweight, not eating enough. *The pediatrician had to assure that
kids would eat whatever amount that they needed.
* * *Even if my kid had munched all day, there was no way that she
would get fat eating whole grain foods, fruits and vegetables. *The
empty calories in soft drinks and twinkies are the key ingredients of
obesity.
* * *Back to the topic of aviation cost, *I truly believe it that if
one is committed to flying, one would find a way to do it. *People
don't keep track of their small expenses but they do add up. *For
example, brewing your own coffee or heading to Dunkin Donut instead of
Starbuck can easily add up to at least one hour of flying a month.
Hai Longworth


I am sure you look after your kids just fine Hai, and so do I.
It was just my warped sense of humor at play. I know what you mean
about finding a way.
I fly about 40 to 50 hrs a year max which cost me just over $100 a
week. I have friends who think that is expensive but think nothing
of ****ing the same amount up against the wall after a night at the
bar.! Would be great if you could do both actually.
Terry

Terry
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Old February 23rd 08, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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"terry" wrote in message
...

I fly about 40 to 50 hrs a year max which cost me just over $100 a
week. I have friends who think that is expensive but think nothing
of ****ing the same amount up against the wall after a night at the
bar.! Would be great if you could do both actually.
Terry


You can, but the correct order of operations is very important g

(it also helps to have a brother who's a bartender)


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Old February 23rd 08, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Longworth[_1_]
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On Feb 23, 1:39*pm, Longworth wrote:
* *Have you tried thewww.100ll.comsite to find the cheapest avgas
price in your area? *Full service FBO at large airports typically
charges a lot more than self-serve pumps at smaller airports. For
example, I had just checked the site for avgas price at KBUF in
comparison to the little next door airport KBQR in Buffalo, NY. *KBUF
full service 100LL is $4.93 vs. $4.09 at KBQR.


I had just reread my posting and found a typo. KBUF's 100LL price
is $5.93 and not $4.93 which is almost $2 more/gal than KBQR. The
latter has been our half-way fuel stop before entering Canada's
airspace on our way to Michigan. We make the NY-MI trips several times
a year.
Buffalo Lanscater is a great little airport. We were usually there
during weekends when the FBO were not open but had ran into a number
of very friendly local pilots during our fuel/lunch breaks.

Hai Longworth
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Old February 23rd 08, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It's true that aviation costs have increased, but the price of
everything has increased as the value of money changes over time
(always less value per unit)

Aviation has never been "cheap."

$5.00 2008 dollars equals 81 cents in 1967 dollars. ( http://www.westegg.com/inflation/)

So $25/ hour rental for an airplane in 1975 should be $104 in today's
dollars.

Which is about right.

When my father flew in the late 60s and early 70s, he paid $25/ hour
(wet) for a Cherokee 140 as a member of a club ($25/month dues).

He also bought a new 1969 Ford Galaxie 500 for $1900. (2 doors, 302
V-8, foam green with Landau vinyl roof -- sweet)

Of course he was proud to earn $200+/week.



Dan
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Old February 23rd 08, 08:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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" wrote in
:

It's true that aviation costs have increased, but the price of
everything has increased as the value of money changes over time
(always less value per unit)

Aviation has never been "cheap."

$5.00 2008 dollars equals 81 cents in 1967 dollars. (
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/)

So $25/ hour rental for an airplane in 1975 should be $104 in today's
dollars.

Which is about right.

When my father flew in the late 60s and early 70s, he paid $25/ hour
(wet) for a Cherokee 140 as a member of a club ($25/month dues).



Then he was paying over twice what he would have at an FBO.

In 1069 a Cessna 150 was 8-10 an hour and a cherokee was 12-15





Bertie
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Old February 23rd 08, 08:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
kontiki
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

In 1069 a Cessna 150 was 8-10 an hour and a cherokee was 12-15


Wow... only three years after the battle of Hastings.
 




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