Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

Of course it never dawned upon you that the government was not "the
French"? Ever heard of something like the Résistence?

Sure.

So?

Good grief, are you really so dim? It takes an awful lot of courage to do
what they did. I suspect the vast majority of those who enjoy dumb jokes
about "the French" wouldn't have that courage.

Yes, we all know that some French resisted collaborating with the Nazis.
They were brave men and women who often died for their cause. All of which
has little to do with the topic, which was the Vichy government and the vast
majority of French who were content to wait it out.

If you're trying to say the Resistance acted as a moral counter-balance to
the vast majority of French who sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of
the most immoral regime in modern history, you'd be wrong.

But what else is new?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:P4yyj.58112$yE1.5148@attbi_s21:

Of course it never dawned upon you that the government was not "the
French"? Ever heard of something like the Résistence?

Sure.

So?

Good grief, are you really so dim? It takes an awful lot of courage
to do what they did. I suspect the vast majority of those who enjoy
dumb jokes about "the French" wouldn't have that courage.

Yes, we all know that some French resisted collaborating with the
Nazis. They were brave men and women who often died for their cause.
All of which has little to do with the topic, which was the Vichy
government and the vast majority of French who were content to wait it
out.

If you're trying to say the Resistance acted as a moral
counter-balance to the vast majority of French who sat on their hands
whilst under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history,
you'd be wrong.


Modern history is young yet, moron.


Bertie

On Mar 2, 8:37 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

Yes, we all know that some French resisted collaborating with the Nazis.
They were brave men and women who often died for their cause. All of which
has little to do with the topic, which was the Vichy government and the vast
majority of French who were content to wait it out.

If you're trying to say the Resistance acted as a moral counter-balance to
the vast majority of French who sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of
the most immoral regime in modern history, you'd be wrong.

But what else is new?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst
under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes
Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg,
Yugoslavia, and Greece.

The vast majority "sat on their hands" in each of those countries as
well.

The vast majority in any era in any place does nothing, because the
vast majority would rather live and does not have the means to resist
in any effective manner -- in France or elsewhere.

And before you get patriotic, bear in mind that the same was true for
the American Colonies -- the majority of colonists did not in any way
directly or indirectly support the Revolution.


Dan

schrieb:

The vast majority "sat on their hands" in each of those countries as
well.

You mean like one out of my family who was told to "shut up - else he
was to be deported". He protested that his 17 year old son was too young
for joining the Wehrmacht. Local politicians had to intervene at the
'Gauleiter' to calm things down.

****!

#m

The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst
under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes
Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg,
Yugoslavia, and Greece.

Right, but none of those countries were loudly proclaiming themselves to be
"world powers" and "leaders of the free world", as was the case with France
prior to WWII. Their collapse in the Battle of France was so complete,
quick, and unexpected that their national prestige will probably never
recover.

The truth is that France prissily regarded themselves as a major world power
long after the shine was off her apple. The amazing thing is that they
continue to display this attitude to this day.

Ya gotta admire their chutzpah, I suppose -- but it's what makes them the
butt of jokes here in America.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck schrieb:

But what else is new?

Nothing. You're still an ignorant.

#m

Martin Hotze wrote in news:fqf060$p1b$1
@kirk.hotze.com:

Jay Honeck schrieb:

But what else is new?

Nothing. You're still an ignorant.

#m

That'd be "you're still ingnorant" or "you're an ignoramous" or You're as
ignorant as a toilet brush"


Not a grammar lame, just constructive cirticism..

Bertie

On Mar 3, 2:37*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


If you're trying to say the Resistance acted as a moral counter-balance to
the vast majority of French who sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of
the most immoral regime in modern history, you'd be wrong.

But what else is new?

Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread.
I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
:

On Mar 3, 2:37*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


If you're trying to say the Resistance acted as a moral
counter-balance to

the vast majority of French who sat on their hands whilst under the
yoke o
f
the most immoral regime in modern history, you'd be wrong.

But what else is new?

Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread.
I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions.

If he's anything, he's consistent.

he's categorically incapable of rethinking anything.

He's a kook!


Bertie

Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread.
I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions.

I don't have attitudes and preconceptions -- but I do have a minor in
history from the University of Wisconsin, and another 30 years of World War
II studies under my belt. My father was a Captain in the US Army Air Corps
during the war, and was stationed in France and Germany in 1945. To assume
I'm not intimately familiar with France's wartime history and post-war
behavior is presumptuous.

Sorry if stating facts hurts your pride, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The
fact remains that the French were humiliated in 1940, many French acted
dishonorably under the Nazi yoke, and they have yet to fully come to terms
with their fate as a former world power.

Don't despair, however. WRT France not gracefully accepting their lessened
global position, they aren't alone. Every dominant world power eventually
faces the same fate, and the U.S.'s turn is coming.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"