Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:06:10 -0500, Todd W. Deckard wrote:

Many years ago I had a '170 based at the Waunakee Wisconsin airpark. I was
coming in to land and a little
fellow cuts towards the runway on his bike. As I overfly he drops it right
on the centerline and bolts.
Now there was enough runway left in the denominator and with careful
attention to any more animal crossings I land and scoop up the offending
bicycle.

Pretty soon his lawyer shows up with some sort of explaination I cannot
remember in an effort to get the bike back -- and I get a good chance to
give the Airport Safety Lecture. I suggest that if he would like to sit in
the plane and put the headphones on that is fine. Now the rest of The
Little Rascals are hiding behind rocks and bushes nearby watching to see
what happens. I suggest that if someone can produce a responsible parent
there might be enough daylight for a ride or two. Eventually some parents
are located and it is another chance to reinforce the airport safety lecture
(and make sure bail was posted and a sentencing hearing was scheduled).

One mom had been in the Navy which made her most qualified to interview hobo
pilot and she asked various questions about my freshmen flying background
(she even looked at my logbook). One or two of the kids got Young Eagles
certificates. One of the others certainly learned his lesson as I can be
sure Navy-Mom narced on him.

I did give him his bike back.
Todd

lol Great story, thx.

Todd W. Deckard wrote:
Many years ago I had a '170 based at the Waunakee Wisconsin airpark. I was
coming in to land and a little
fellow cuts towards the runway on his bike. As I overfly he drops it right
on the centerline and bolts.
Now there was enough runway left in the denominator and with careful
attention to any more animal crossings I land and scoop up the offending
bicycle.

Pretty soon his lawyer shows up with some sort of explaination I cannot
remember in an effort to get the bike back -- and I get a good chance to
give the Airport Safety Lecture. I suggest that if he would like to sit in
the plane and put the headphones on that is fine. Now the rest of The
Little Rascals are hiding behind rocks and bushes nearby watching to see
what happens. I suggest that if someone can produce a responsible parent
there might be enough daylight for a ride or two. Eventually some parents
are located and it is another chance to reinforce the airport safety lecture
(and make sure bail was posted and a sentencing hearing was scheduled).

One mom had been in the Navy which made her most qualified to interview hobo
pilot and she asked various questions about my freshmen flying background
(she even looked at my logbook). One or two of the kids got Young Eagles
certificates. One of the others certainly learned his lesson as I can be
sure Navy-Mom narced on him.

I did give him his bike back.
Todd





"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
.. .

I just read several airpark descriptions, many were relating the fact that
kids were riding their bicycles not only along the strip but across the
strips. Including 3 wheelers, etc.
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Good for you!!! Turn an bratty kid into a learning experience! We had
our plane at a Dulles Days Plane Pull and went back to the plane to find
3 kids running up and down the wing (with mom looking on). Ron
retreated to the plane next door with the owner and said "she's going
into teacher mode". I had all three kids, sniffling but not crying and
promising NEVER to touch another airplane without the permission of the
owner and then they all got inside, with my supervision and learned
quite a lot. They had a great time, mom learned not to let her kids
touch stuff that wasn't theirs (maybe) and airplanes ruled the day!

Margy

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On Mar 10, 6:05 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH

It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!

The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????


I think I figured it out the other day. The trick to flying is controlling how quickly you stop....

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:58:19 GMT, Blueskies wrote:

wrote in message ...
On Mar 10, 6:05 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH

It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!

The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????

No offense but this is like arguing with a 16 yo (not you personally) "Dad,
there is a stop sign, people STOP."
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:58:19 GMT, Blueskies wrote:

wrote in message ...
On Mar 10, 6:05 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......
Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH
It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????

No offense but this is like arguing with a 16 yo (not you personally) "Dad,
there is a stop sign, people STOP."


Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......
Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH
It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????

No offense but this is like arguing with a 16 yo (not you personally) "Dad,
there is a stop sign, people STOP."

Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

I can't argue that you are wrong but, in real terms, this is much too
simple of a comparison.

Look at it this way. You have several hundred 1,000s of $$$ to mortgage
or invest in a home. If that home gets struck by a car, eh, people will
forget in a few months, a year or so. If you live on an airstrip and a
plane rolls into you, that is going to stick in the public's mind for a
long, long time.

The risk of either happening is low, the results if it does happen can
be astronomically different financially.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:58:19 GMT, Blueskies wrote:

wrote in message ...
On Mar 10, 6:05 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......
Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH
It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????

No offense but this is like arguing with a 16 yo (not you personally) "Dad,
there is a stop sign, people STOP."

Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.

--

WJRFlyBoy wrote:

Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.


So you've changed your whole argument to perceived dangers now?

If that's the case then I'll opt out of this conversation. When I posted
my reply you were stating the case that there was a real danger.

On Mar 21, 2:09 pm, Gig 601XL Builder

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.

So you've changed your whole argument to perceived dangers now?

If that's the case then I'll opt out of this conversation. When I posted
my reply you were stating the case that there was a real danger.

Soon you will see that things are not as they appear, for you are
expecting a conversation, when in fact you debate with MXJunior...


Dan Mc

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:09:42 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:

Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.


So you've changed your whole argument to perceived dangers now?

I took your lead "houses...closer..street..etc. The dangers are both
real and perceived regardless.

If that's the case then I'll opt out of this conversation. When I posted
my reply you were stating the case that there was a real danger.

There is a real danger. If you care to deny the fact that there is a
history of loss of life, physical destruction to property in airparks,
then you had best opt out. I certainly have no more use to discuss this
with you if you're position so flagrantly flies in the face of reality.