ping Dan Thomas/weird crashes.

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:19:24 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

On Apr 1, 12:06 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On Mar 31, 11:02 pm, "Private" wrote:



"Private" wrote in message

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Piper Malibu down east of Edmonton 5 sob

FYI

http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&ta...577933&topic=h

http://discussions.flightaware.com/v...?p=47890#47890

http://www.aviation.ca/component/opt...temid,306/func...

Condolences to family & friends.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...80329/alta_pla...

http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&ta...577933&topic=n

This is news to me,http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...d=1c6483cc-309...

So in IFR in dense cloud, the AH starts going funny,
one still x-checks against the heading indicator and
the altimeter/rate of descent.
Finally there's the magnetic compass that is fool-
proof, (not idiot proof-Bertie couldn't find it ;-).
For rate of descent, the power setting vs, KIAS gives
a fair good idea of the rate of descent.

That all works for a 1/2 ass pilot, however if the cabin
pressure had a slow leak, and the pilot slowly looses
mental faculties, (Bertie is a typical example), that
could lead to pilot confusion.
Ken

And the last time you flew partial panel in IMC was....?

Jesus, what an idiot you are. *PLONK*
--
Dr. Robert Bear, MD, FRCPC
American Board of Internal Medicine & Nephrology Certification
Telephone 780-407-7239; Fax 780-407-7771

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

On Mar 31, 11:02 pm, "Private" wrote:
"Private" wrote in message

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Piper Malibu down east of Edmonton 5 sob

FYI

http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&ta...577933&topic=h

http://discussions.flightaware.com/v...?p=47890#47890


http://www.aviation.ca/component/opt...temid,306/func
...

Condolences to family & friends.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...80329/alta_pla.
..

http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&ta...577933&topic=n

This is news to me,
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...l?id=1c6483cc-
3097-
41ce-ad88-825a02ca8ec5

So in IFR in dense cloud, the AH starts going funny,
one still x-checks against the heading indicator and
the altimeter/rate of descent.
Finally there's the magnetic compass that is fool-
proof, (not idiot proof-Bertie couldn't find it ;-).
For rate of descent, the power setting vs, KIAS gives
a fair good idea of the rate of descent.

That all works for a 1/2 ass pilot, however if the cabin
pressure had a slow leak, and the pilot slowly looses
mental faculties, (Bertie is a typical example), that
could lead to pilot confusion.


Bwawahwhha!

Like you need a lack of O2 for that.


Bertie

On Apr 1, 10:06 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

So in IFR in dense cloud, the AH starts going funny,
one still x-checks against the heading indicator and
the altimeter/rate of descent.
Finally there's the magnetic compass that is fool-
proof, (not idiot proof-Bertie couldn't find it ;-).

Neither the heading indicator nor the altimeter will keep you
upright. The turn coordinator and ASI are for that. The magnetic
compass is useless during a turn, as you *should* know.

Dan (whose IFR rating lapsed eight years ago already. Too busy
fixing airplanes for other people. Where does the time go?)

On Apr 1, 4:12 pm, wrote:
On Apr 1, 10:06 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

So in IFR in dense cloud, the AH starts going funny,
one still x-checks against the heading indicator and
the altimeter/rate of descent.
Finally there's the magnetic compass that is fool-
proof, (not idiot proof-Bertie couldn't find it ;-).

Neither the heading indicator nor the altimeter will keep you
upright. The turn coordinator and ASI are for that. The magnetic
compass is useless during a turn, as you *should* know.

LOL,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_of_St._Louis
You should REALLY study how that was done.
BTW, I use a Barometer as an altitude indicator
driving around BC, up and down.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
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That all works for a 1/2 ass pilot, however if the cabin
pressure had a slow leak, and the pilot slowly looses
mental faculties, (Bertie is a typical example), that
could lead to pilot confusion.
Ken


Check YOUR cabin, it seems to be leaking, and not slowly.

I would also suggest and request that you show some respect for a qualified
pilot and active aviation supporter and for his passengers and their
families and friends. As aviators concerned with safety, we all want to
learn from this sad event but it is just low class to use it as an excuse to
troll or to demonstrate your ignorance in general.

No reply requested.

On Apr 2, 3:43 pm, "Private" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ...
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That all works for a 1/2 ass pilot, however if the cabin
pressure had a slow leak, and the pilot slowly looses
mental faculties, (Bertie is a typical example), that
could lead to pilot confusion.
Ken

Check YOUR cabin, it seems to be leaking, and not slowly.
....
IDIOT :-)

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
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I'm wondering about foul-play going on here,
http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...KW6KPMty3h8HjQ

When his dad crashed a few months ago it was big
news cuz a little girl survived, but now he crashes with
a really strange debris field.

It's really strange to me.
Ken

Foul play, that would be insane, more like a CSI episode than real life.

On Mar 28, 8:27 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
I'm wondering about foul-play going on here,http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...os2CRKW6KPMty3...

When his dad crashed a few months ago it was big
news cuz a little girl survived, but now he crashes with
a really strange debris field.

It's really strange to me.
Ken

No real idea. It's about 100 nm Northeast of us, and we had
snow at the time. I would think the pilot was IFR certified if he was
flying a jetprop like that one. The way the radar track jiggles around
yet maintains a steady track toward their destination,, and the fact
that the pilot told ATC that they had technical problems, there might
have been some structural issue involved. Beyond that, I can't
speculate. A large debris field suggests inflight breakup.
Bad for the families involved, especially the pilot's family,
who lost members in another crash last fall.

Dan

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

I'm wondering about foul-play going on here,
http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...s2CRKW6KPMty3h
8
HjQ

When his dad crashed a few months ago it was big
news cuz a little girl survived, but now he crashes with
a really strange debris field.

It's really strange to me.
Ken


Why don't you go buy one. Or you could nmake one out of paper.

Then you could go and try and duplicate it!



Bertie