PC flight simulators

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC), "Anonymous" wrote:


Andreas Maurer wrote in message ...
Flying a PC simulation too often indeed tends to teach a couple of bad
habits that are hard to train away again (looking a the instruments
too often is one of them).

Perfect for learning to fly IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) as opposed to
VFR (Visual Flight Rules).

Flying at night (in the US) does not require an IFR ticket.

Al Minyard

Subject: PC flight simulators
From: Alan Minyard
Date: 11/18/03 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC), "Anonymous"
wrote:


Andreas Maurer wrote in message ...
Flying a PC simulation too often indeed tends to teach a couple of bad
habits that are hard to train away again (looking a the instruments
too often is one of them).

Perfect for learning to fly IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) as opposed to
VFR (Visual Flight Rules).

Flying at night (in the US) does not require an IFR ticket.

Al Minyard



Alan, as you know, something happens when you are socked in with zero
vivsibility and on IFR that never happens on a computer in an easy chair. A
sense of mild discomfort and a bit of anxiety which if not kept under
control can lead to disaster. Pilots with long IFR hours can usually deal with
it in a routine matter. But MSFS will never give you the experience to walk
that IFR walk with ease and comfort. I think John John Kennedy spent long hours
on MSFS.. He enjoyed it a great deal.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Alan, as you know, something happens when you are socked in with zero
vivsibility and on IFR that never happens on a computer in an easy chair. A
sense of mild discomfort and a bit of anxiety which if not kept under
control can lead to disaster. Pilots with long IFR hours can usually deal
with
it in a routine matter. But MSFS will never give you the experience to walk
that IFR walk with ease and comfort. I think John John Kennedy spent long
hours
on MSFS.. He enjoyed it a great deal.


Well IFR on a desktop sim, which many of them are far far better than many of
the older analog sims which are used for ifr training, is not something that is
going to build proficiency or comfort when going down to mins...

But it can be great for honing procedures and practicing approaches, which can
make you a better IFR pilot.


Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

362436 (Ron) wrote:
(ArtKramr) wrote:

Alan, as you know, something happens when you are socked in with zero
vivsibility and on IFR that never happens on a computer in an easy chair. A
sense of mild discomfort and a bit of anxiety which if not kept under
control can lead to disaster. Pilots with long IFR hours can usually deal
with it in a routine matter. But MSFS will never give you the experience to walk
that IFR walk with ease and comfort. I think John John Kennedy spent long
hours on MSFS.. He enjoyed it a great deal.

Well IFR on a desktop sim, which many of them are far far better than many of
the older analog sims which are used for ifr training, is not something that is
going to build proficiency or comfort when going down to mins...

But it can be great for honing procedures and practicing approaches, which can
make you a better IFR pilot.

Re-read what you just wrote, Ron. If desktop sims are good for
practicing approaches which can make you a "better" IFR pilot,
then it simply follows that to a limited degree desktop sims can
also help make you feel more "comfortable" when going down
to mins.

For example, when dispatched to a strange airport (esp. at night
in bad WX) from time to time me and my fellow charter jockeys
would fire up MS FlightSim 98 on our desktops, drag out the
applicable approach plates and practice a few approaches at
that strange airport before leaving for work.

But don't expect someone as insanely irrational and illogical as
Kramer to admit that he's more full of **** than a sperm whale with
NO ass! Remember that Kramer is not even a PILOT (much less
instrument rated) therefore he has no clue what it's like to routinely
shoot precision or non-precision approaches in Can't-See-****
conditions down to minimums as *PIC* (just for Kramer....PIC means
Pilot In Command).

The fact of the matter is that Kramer couldn't even successfully pass
a BASIC private pilot IFR written and/or oral exam, not to mention a
checkride in actual IMC conditions!

-Mike Marron
CFI-Instrument & former Commercial single-pilot IFR
(single & multi engine) pilot.

In message , Alan Minyard
writes
Flying at night (in the US) does not require an IFR ticket.

Nor in the UK, but it does require an extra ticket: typically ~5 hours
(as opposed to at least 10hrs plus lots of maintenance for IFR - if it
was easy, everyone would do it)

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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On 16 Nov 2003 18:51:41 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote:

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When I was at the F-18 RAG/FRS, they had three simulators, of three
entirely different levels of sophistication. The simplest one was
really just for practicing switchology on. The most realistic one had
a real cockpit and dome, with incredibly good CGI and the ability to
link with the other dome sim to fly in a two-man in a common scenario.
The third was about halfway between these two.

All of which run with large errors to the actual aircraft. A lack of
simulator accuracy often leads to the flight test operator flying through
the requested parameter, while having had the same manouver produce correct
results.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE