Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

"F. Baum" wrote in news:df63bc2f-bc09-43c7-8183-
:

On Apr 19, 1:58*pm, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:28*am, "F. Baum" wrote:

Airlines use average wieghts for pax and
bags . These are conservative .

Not any more. The only thing limiting PAX weight is how many lard
asses can get stuffed into the same row.

Average pax weights have been revised upwards in recent years to
reflect the fact that High Fructose Corn Syrup has become the new
Tobaco in this country. Add to this the fact that most airlines will
plan a balanced field on max alowable and not actual,

??
You mean they schedule on that or do actual performance on the day that
way?


Bertie

On Apr 20, 9:58*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Average pax weights have been revised upwards in recent years to
reflect the fact that High Fructose Corn Syrup has become the new
Tobaco in this country. Add to this the fact that most airlines will
plan a balanced field on max alowable and not actual,

??
You mean they schedule on that or do actual performance on the day that
way?

Bertie
BTB, All this stuff is figured within two hours of departure, after
the fuel load is determined. As far as I know bookings are only
restricted where there is a regular pattern of denied boardings.
FBaum

On 21 Apr, 01:53, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Apr 20, 9:58*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Average pax weights have been revised upwards in recent years to
reflect the fact that High Fructose Corn Syrup has become the new
Tobaco in this country. Add to this the fact that most airlines will
plan a balanced field on max alowable and not actual,

??
You mean they schedule on that or do actual performance on the day that
way?

Bertie

BTB, All this stuff is figured within two hours of departure, after
the fuel load is determined. As far as I know bookings are only
restricted where there is a regular pattern of denied boardings.
FBaum

Well, we finish up the load sheet and determine performance in the
last half hour at the earliest and always on actual weights. The
company may have a max estimate for the day, but prerfromace is left
entirely up to us. We get the weight and we ( the crew) decide what
flap, runway and flexible thrust setting to use on the spot. The
company has a good idea of what the limits are, of course.


bertie

On Apr 21, 3:32*am, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Apr 19, 1:58*pm, WingFlaps wrote: On Apr 20, 5:28*am, "F. Baum" wrote:

Airlines use average wieghts for pax and
bags . These are conservative .

Not any more. The only thing limiting PAX weight is how many lard
asses can get stuffed into the same row.

Average pax weights have been revised upwards in recent years to
reflect the fact that High Fructose Corn Syrup has become the new
Tobaco in this country. Add to this the fact that most airlines will
plan a balanced field on max alowable and not actual, and that there
is unused tolerance on most flights . We only use child weights when
nessesary. I dont know what your experience has been, but I will say
again that the numbers are pretty conservative and give a good margin
of safety.

Do you think 190 lbs/adult is conservative with 10% of the population
clinically obese and 30% overweight?

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote:


Do you think 190 lbs/adult is conservative with 10% of the population
clinically obese and 30% overweight?

Cheers


Do you think that that 10% and 30% applies evenly though out the
population? I'd bet the higher socio-economic levels of the population,
which also just happen to be the people most likely to be flying have a
lower obesity rate.

Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:


Do you think 190 lbs/adult is conservative with 10% of the population
clinically obese and 30% overweight?

Cheers


Do you think that that 10% and 30% applies evenly though out the
population? I'd bet the higher socio-economic levels of the population,
which also just happen to be the people most likely to be flying have a
lower obesity rate.

Not to mention that many women can be 50+ pounds under the average and
still be overweight.