Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 24, 12:23*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Doe writes:
How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.


Well, you'd have a hard time understaning how a 172 can fly to Haiwaii
then. Try simulating a 172 300# over MTOW?

Vheers

WingFlaps writes:

Well, you'd have a hard time understaning how a 172 can fly to Haiwaii
then. Try simulating a 172 300# over MTOW?

I don't exceed weight limits.

On Apr 23, 5:39*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

I've flown a 172 more loaded that!

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
:

On Apr 23, 5:39*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world
because
you
took off overweight.

I've flown a 172 more loaded that!

Cheers


I've flown one on a ferry that was probably about 300 or 400 lbs
overweight, but off very long runways and in a quite cold region. No
problem, but I wouldn't do it as routine and I wouldn't do it if
performance was an issue. A couple of pounds overweight is one thing,
but it doesn't take much to reach a point where the airplane won't go up
at all, particularly if it's a relatively low powered aircraft like a
172 in the first place. The degradation is not linear, so if there's a
100 FPM loss with a 100lb overload, it does not mean that there will be
a 200 lb loss with a 200 lb overload. Obvious, I know, but it's
something often forgotten when wishful thinking takes the place of a
rational approach to the problem.

Bertie

Bertie

On Apr 23, 5:39 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

You are demonstrating as to why you are the group clown.
If an aircraft impacts the ground after takeoff it will be engine
failure or loss of control (spin off departing turn) nothing to do
with load..

Mate of mine is an ag pilot.At 72+

george writes:

You are demonstrating as to why you are the group clown.
If an aircraft impacts the ground after takeoff it will be engine
failure or loss of control (spin off departing turn) nothing to do
with load..

I've already pointed this out:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...loaded-172.wmv

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

Mxsmanic wrote in
news
george writes:

You are demonstrating as to why you are the group clown.
If an aircraft impacts the ground after takeoff it will be engine
failure or loss of control (spin off departing turn) nothing to do
with load..

I've already pointed this out:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...12-Overloaded-
1
72.wmv

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

Nothing looks like anythign to you, fjukktard, you don't fly and have no
idea of what you're talking about. You may as well be commenting on a
Star trek sequence as though it were reality.



Bertie

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

george writes:

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

By the description given.

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From: george

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his
joystick.

Which could mean leaning back his chair... What a picture!

Thank God he's not my upstairs neighbor, and by a comfortable distance.

Peter :-)))