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April 24th 08, 09:29 PM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: george On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was overweight, though. How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks like? Remember. You can't and don't fly. I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the pilots here... MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick. Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them 
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April 24th 08, 10:28 PM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
On Apr 25, 8:29*am, george wrote:
On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: george On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. *The aircraft was overweight, though. How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks like? Remember. You can't and don't fly. I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the pilots here... MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick. Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them- Hide quoted text - Yes, aft COG probably led to an early rotation he did not prevent with forward pressure. With a very loaded aft COG it feels like the plane wants to lift off but you must keep one eye on the ASI and keep that nose down until you reach an increased rotate speed -or the end of the runway... Cheers
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April 25th 08, 01:17 AM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
On Apr 25, 9:28 am, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:29 am, george wrote: On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: george On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was overweight, though. How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks like? Remember. You can't and don't fly. I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the pilots here... MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick. Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them- Hide quoted text - Yes, aft COG probably led to an early rotation he did not prevent with forward pressure. With a very loaded aft COG it feels like the plane wants to lift off but you must keep one eye on the ASI and keep that nose down until you reach an increased rotate speed -or the end of the runway... Yup.
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April 25th 08, 03:17 AM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
george writes:
Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them The aircraft was overweight.
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April 25th 08, 03:27 AM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
Mxsmanic wrote in
: george writes: Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them The aircraft was overweight. How do you know, fjukkwit? Bertie
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April 25th 08, 05:14 AM
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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross
On Apr 25, 2:17 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes: Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it. Once! If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain track and no climb out of ground effect. Wrong side of the power curve killed them The aircraft was overweight. Present the weight and balance sheet ! Or It looked like the diet was working. Lost a lot of weight
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