141 Schools

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:53 pm, RC_Moonpie wrote:

Did you realize that a 141 school student:
¡E can get a full license in less hours
¡E can become a CFI in less hours
¡E is teaching the next class of students
¡E is allowed to do this because the program is a certified FAA approved
program

This is very odd considering the FAA has never issued a license to
anyone. Technically you can earn your private pilot certificate in 35
hrs vs 40 at a 141 school but I've only met one student in my life who
took a checkride with less than 40 hours.
The rest of what you say is just plain baseless crap. You site no
studies or statistics to prove your point because there are none.

-Robert, CFII

I got mine back in '70 from a small 141 operation and received my
certificate at just over 35 hours.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

On Apr 29, 9:03*am, Ross wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:

-Robert, CFII

I got mine back in '70 from a small 141 operation and received my
certificate at just over 35 hours.


Cool. I think people seem to think that 141 schools are somehow large
training facilities. I would guess that the majority of 141 schools
are mom and pop FBOs. The biggest benefit of being 141 for these guys
is that VA will pay for training.

-Robert

I teach at a 141 school and believe me I have had students finish in 35
hrs. If a student wants to do part 61, I teach that to the same
standards, same syllabus. Sure is nonsense to say it is all about
regulations, and less about real flying.

On Apr 29, 12:46*pm, BillJ wrote:
I teach at a 141 school and believe me I have had students finish in 35
hrs. If a student wants to do part 61, I teach that to the same
standards, same syllabus. Sure is nonsense to say it is all about
regulations, and less about real flying.

I think there are a lot of "shade tree" CFI's who feel like they teach
"real yank-n-bank" flying but don't understand regs. They want to feel
as though their students are somehow better than ours. Being able to
recite regs is just a part of modern aviation.

-Robert

On 2008-04-28 12:53:13 -0700, RC_Moonpie said:

Many of you may not know these places by the phrase "141 school" so I
will give you some great ways to spot them. If the school is a
university flight department, if the name includes the word Academy, or
if their ad says anything that refers to training pilots for an airline
position it is a 141 school and you should carefully consider sending
anyone there. HereÕs your quick evaluation test: Do I want my
offspring to be a pilot or do I want them to be a regulation expert with
average skills? If itÕs the first, you should consider finding
another school.

I think you are confusing "141 schools" with "inexperienced pilots."
Many small flight schools are 141 schools -- many student loan programs
require that the school be part 141.

Frankly, I think it is presumptuous for anyone to come into a group of
pilots and to assume that we do not know what a 141 school is.

You did not make clear what your idea of a 'real' pilot is, either. I
doubt if you have a clear idea what the difference is between part 61
and part 141 syllabi. If you have a problem with the syllabi, let's
hear it. But I don't think you are going to make a lot of headway by
generalizations about "141 schools" or "big schools" or "schools with
beige-colored buildings."

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Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor