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Old May 14th 08, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Margy Natalie
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Default weather for pilots?

Jay Honeck wrote:
In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?



I would personally find such a book interesting.

Unfortunately, with pilot numbers dropping, I suspect your efforts
wouldn't get you on the NY Times best-seller list...

I have the good fortune of having a daughter who is a meteorlogist (as
is her boyfriend). We were flying and saw this really wierd cloud. We
were having dinner with them that evening (not bad considering I only
see the kid about 5 time a year) and they had the cloud named in a few
minutes and said "That's really weird that you saw that as it only
occurs at the point of a wind shear and the shear usually takes all the
moisture out of the cloud". Once I told them we were over a lake at the
time they just nodded and said "local moisture source". the cloud
looked like a corkscrew laying on it's side. If I'd had a clue I would
have climbed 2,000 feet and avoided having my teeth knocked around!

Margy
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Old May 14th 08, 03:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default weather for pilots?

I'm sure I don't need to remind you, Margy, of the old maxim that a student
pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
attendant and tell whether.

Jim

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"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:



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Old May 15th 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gezellig
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:03:34 -0700, RST Engineering wrote:

the old maxim that a student
pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
attendant and tell whether.

Jim


It's going to rain?
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Old May 15th 08, 11:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default weather for pilots?

Huh?

Jim

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"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:03:34 -0700, RST Engineering wrote:

the old maxim that a student
pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
attendant and tell whether.

Jim


It's going to rain?



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Old May 15th 08, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 14, 8:03*am, "RST Engineering" wrote:
I'm sure I don't need to remind you, Margy, of the old maxim that a student
pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
attendant and tell whether.

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
* * * * --Aristotle

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message

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Old May 7th 08, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tina
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Default weather for pilots?

You may find a wider potential market writing one for the lay public,
or even the traveling public. You'd need huge penetration of the GA
market to do well with a book aimed at us specifically.

Of course, if the book had a centerfold of a Stagger wing Beech. . . .



On May 7, 1:57 am, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
penetrate hurricanes?

In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


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Old May 7th 08, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Qzectb
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 7, 7:06 am, Tina wrote:
You may find a wider potential market writing one for the lay public,
or even the traveling public. You'd need huge penetration of the GA
market to do well with a book aimed at us specifically.


Depends on how you define "doing well". Since I don't work through a
commercial publisher (and therefore keep a very high percentage of the
sale price of my books), a mere 1000 copies per year would make the
effort worthwhile from my point of view. What would that be as a
percentage of the GA market?

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Old May 7th 08, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default weather for pilots?

On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Qzectb
wrote in
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In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?


Perhaps.

How would the work you propose differ from this one:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory... light=2,00-45
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Old May 8th 08, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Qzectb
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Perhaps.

How would the work you propose differ from this one:http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...ry/rgAdvisoryC...


Well, nicer font for one. Oh, and it wouldn't read like an FAA
training manual but more like a commercial non-fiction book with at
least a little personality, real-life stories, anecdotes, case
studies, etc.

Other than that, the above document looks like it has some pretty
useful (if somewhat dated) information.

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Old May 16th 08, 06:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default weather for pilots?

On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT), Qzectb
wrote in
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Perhaps.

How would the work you propose differ from this one:http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...ry/rgAdvisoryC...


Well, nicer font for one. Oh, and it wouldn't read like an FAA
training manual but more like a commercial non-fiction book with at
least a little personality, real-life stories, anecdotes, case
studies, etc.

Other than that, the above document looks like it has some pretty
useful (if somewhat dated) information.


Perhaps you'll be able to find some non-fiction stories in the
document below to include in your work:

http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2005/SS0501.pdf
National Transportation Safety Board. 2005. Risk Factors
Associated with Weather-Related General Aviation Accidents. Safety
Study NTSB/SS-05/01. Washington, DC.

Abstract: The goal of this National Transportation Safety Board
study was to better understand the risk factors associated with
accidents that occur in weather conditions characterized by IMC or
poor visibility (.weather-related accidents.). Safety Board air
safety investigators collected data from 72 general aviation
accidents that occurred between August 2003 and April 2004. When
accidents occurred, study managers also contacted pilots of
flights that were operating in the vicinity at the time of those
accidents for information about their flight activity. A total of
135 nonaccident flights were included in the study. All
nonaccident pilots voluntarily consented to interviews and
provided information about their flights, their aircraft, and
details about their training, experience, and demographics.
Additionally, the Federal Aviation Administration provided
information about pilots. practical and written test results and
their previous accident/incident involvement. Statistical analyses
were used to determine the relationships between study
variables and accident/nonaccident status and to identify
variables that could be linked to an increased risk
of weather-related general aviation accident involvement. The
analysis revealed several pilot- and flightrelated factors
associated with increased risk of accident involvement. The safety
issues discussed in this report include: 1) pilot age and
training-related differences, 2) pilot testing, accident, and
incident history, and 3) pilot weather briefing sources and
methods. Safety recommendations concerning these issues were
made to the Federal Aviation Administration.
 




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