Machinists Call for Airline Re-Regulation

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On May 9, 4:39 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 16:11:13 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"

In fact, that is what gov't regulation does. It disrupts the natural
forces of the market and directs artificial amount of money towards
certain people.

There's little question that government regulation "disrupts the
natural forces of the market," but I don't see that as a bad thing.

I understand, and I understand there are a lot of people like you. For
many of us the natrual forces of the market are very intuitive but for
others its a difficult concept. In a nut shell, as long as producers
have to compete for customers, customers will get the best value
(based on what is important to them). In the airline industry
passengers have said over and over again that they want cheap fares
and are not willing to pay extra for comfort. Several have tried to
create "premium" airlines but they always fail. If someday passengers
prefer comfort over price the market will change.

- Just like self serve gas.


There is a reason
BMV sells better cars then Kia and its not because they are nicer
people.

- But interesting how many Beemer owners prefer to pump their own
gas.


I got three!

Nyah nyah.


And I make Okies pump my gas.

Bertie

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Everyone knows that de-regulation fosters price competition, and that
means lower airline ticket prices for consumers, so it's a "good
thing," right?


You're right that it's a good thing, but you're wrong when you say everyone
knows it.



After all, the most noble goal is to provide reduced
prices over mundane things like passenger comfort, right?


No.



And very body know that government regulation is a "bad thing," right?


You're right that it's a bad thing, but you're wrong when you say everybody
knows it.



If the competition starts charging passengers for pillows and
blankets, it will ripple through the other air carriers, and ticket
prices will fall commensurately across them all, right?


No.



And if one
airline in it's attempt to increase revenues reduces leg-room so that
it can carry more passengers in a given aircraft, the other's will
have to follow suit, or become priced out of the market, so ticket
prices fall, right?


No. Other carriers might tout their greater leg room and some customers
might choose to pay a bit more for it. That's the beauty of a free market.



Competition frees airlines to self-regulate; how
can that be bad?


It's not.



So why is Congress being asked to re-regulate airlines?


Because it's easier than satisfying the customer.

So why is Congress being asked to re-regulate
airlines?

Because the union stands to make a great deal of money by asking for
protection.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:51:21 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in tLhVj.103766$TT4.6321@attbi_s22:

So why is Congress being asked to re-regulate airlines?

Because the union stands to make a great deal of money by asking for
protection.


How do you think the union stands to profit? Do you believe the union
will raise the members' dues if their bid for re-regulation is
granted?

Please explain your conclusion by disclosing your analysis?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:51:21 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in tLhVj.103766$TT4.6321@attbi_s22:

So why is Congress being asked to re-regulate airlines?

Because the union stands to make a great deal of money by asking for
protection.


How do you think the union stands to profit? Do you believe the union
will raise the members' dues if their bid for re-regulation is
granted?

Please explain your conclusion by disclosing your analysis?

Are you too young to recall the basic economics of the airline industry
before deregulation?

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in :


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:51:21 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in tLhVj.103766$TT4.6321@attbi_s22:

So why is Congress being asked to re-regulate airlines?

Because the union stands to make a great deal of money by asking for
protection.


How do you think the union stands to profit? Do you believe the union
will raise the members' dues if their bid for re-regulation is
granted?

Please explain your conclusion by disclosing your analysis?

Are you too young to recall the basic economics of the airline industry
before deregulation?


Bwawhahwhahwhah!


Like you'd know, kookie boi.

Bertie

Because the union stands to make a great deal of money by asking for
protection.

How do you think the union stands to profit? Do you believe the union
will raise the members' dues if their bid for re-regulation is
granted?

When I say the union stands to make a lot of money, I don't mean union dues.
"Regulation" = "Less Competition" = "Protection" of union jobs. Remember
the days before deregulation, with all the waste/bloat/high-priced tickets?

As much as we all lament the great service of the "old days", I don't think
anyone wants to pay $1K (in today's money) to fly cross-country anymore.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On May 10, 8:47*pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

When I say the union stands to make a lot of money, I don't mean union dues.
"Regulation" = "Less Competition" = "Protection" of union jobs. *Remember
the days before deregulation, with all the waste/bloat/high-priced tickets?

First, disreguard my last post. Second, whats wrong with a little job
security. We all stand to gain from a stong viable airline industry.
IAM is AGAINST consolidation (Which would mean less competition). What
waste/Bloat are you talking about.

As much as we all lament the great service of the "old days", I don't think
anyone wants to pay $1K (in today's money) to fly cross-country anymore.

I lament those hot young flight attendants.
Frank

I lament those hot young flight attendants.

Now *there* is something we can all agree on!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

F. Baum wrote:

I lament those hot young flight attendants.
Frank

The loss of which you can also blame on the government.