I give up, after many, many years!

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Did you read my post? Did you forget the fact my vacuum system wasn't
working? How can I trust the instruments?

You don't need vacuum for electric instruments.

Once again you're totally clueless. Your Directional Gyro is vacuum
driven. If you only needed electric instruments to fly, your primary
instruments wouldn't be pitot-static. If you have an electrical
problem, bus failure or inflight fire, you might lose all your
electrical instruments.


If you have no instruments and you're in IMC, you have a big problem.

Only if you don't know how to use your radios and know which senses to
trust.

Not when the vacuum system is broke. I just experienced it
yesterday.

Don't fly IFR until it's fixed.

The problem likely happened while he was in flight. In the real world,
you don't get to hit "ALT" and fiddle with your settings until things works.

Ah, why do I bother with you? You ask questions just to contradict
literally everybody who answers them regardless of the experience they
have or the official sources they quote.


-c

gatt writes:

Once again you're totally clueless. Your Directional Gyro is vacuum
driven. If you only needed electric instruments to fly, your primary
instruments wouldn't be pitot-static. If you have an electrical
problem, bus failure or inflight fire, you might lose all your
electrical instruments.

You think it terms of tiny airplanes. You can drive instruments in other ways
besides with vacuum.

Only if you don't know how to use your radios and know which senses to
trust.

No. Radios or not, if you have no instruments in IMC, you're doomed. Your
radio will not help you, and you cannot trust your senses.

The problem likely happened while he was in flight. In the real world,
you don't get to hit "ALT" and fiddle with your settings until things works.

In the real world, you find the nearest available airport and land. It's very
dangerous to fly IFR without all instruments in good working order.

You ask questions just to contradict
literally everybody who answers them regardless of the experience they
have or the official sources they quote.

At least a few of the people here are going to learn the essential rules of
IFR the hard way. I will be gracious enough, however, to not say "I told you
so" to their surviving family members.

On May 19, 6:16 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
....
No. Radios or not, if you have no instruments in IMC, you're doomed. Your
radio will not help you, and you cannot trust your senses.

I disagee. If all Instruments go dead, go to
magnetic compass for heading, even in a fog, that's
SOP. Maintaining altitude is "seat of pants" thing, so
what? Set cruise RPM and feel airspeed.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
:

On May 19, 6:16 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
...
No. Radios or not, if you have no instruments in IMC, you're doomed.
Your radio will not help you, and you cannot trust your senses.

I disagee. If all Instruments go dead, go to
magnetic compass for heading, even in a fog, that's
SOP.


No, it isn't.

Maintaining altitude is "seat of pants" thing, so
what? Set cruise RPM and feel airspeed.

Another idiot. Between the two of you you couldn't get a chuck glider
airborne.


Bertie

Ken S. Tucker writes:

I disagee. If all Instruments go dead, go to
magnetic compass for heading, even in a fog, that's
SOP.

If you have a compass, all instruments are not dead.

However, that won't be enough in IMC.

Maintaining altitude is "seat of pants" thing, so
what? Set cruise RPM and feel airspeed.

That isn't possible.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ken S. Tucker writes:

I disagee. If all Instruments go dead, go to
magnetic compass for heading, even in a fog, that's
SOP.

If you have a compass, all instruments are not dead.

However, that won't be enough in IMC.

Do tel, what is, fjukkwit?


Bertie

On May 19, 6:54 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Ken S. Tucker writes:
I disagee. If all Instruments go dead, go to
magnetic compass for heading, even in a fog, that's
SOP.

If you have a compass, all instruments are not dead.

Well duh, it's a magnetic compass in a fluid.

However, that won't be enough in IMC.

Is for me.

Maintaining altitude is "seat of pants" thing, so
what? Set cruise RPM and feel airspeed.

That isn't possible.

Sure it is.
As long as you're not accelerating, which is something
that can be sensed by audio RPM , the magnetic
compass can operate as an artificial horizon too,
because it's like a plumb-bob.
It's of course, independant of operating systems.

IIRC, the magnetic compass is on pre-flight check
list, date of calibration and ascertain operation on
taxi.
Ken

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

You think it terms of tiny airplanes. You can drive instruments in
other ways besides with vacuum.


Your problem is that you have a tiny brain. More like a micro brain.

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

Once again you're totally clueless. Your Directional Gyro is vacuum
driven. If you only needed electric instruments to fly, your primary
instruments wouldn't be pitot-static. If you have an electrical
problem, bus failure or inflight fire, you might lose all your
electrical instruments.

You think it terms of tiny airplanes.


Bertie doesn't, and he agrees with me: You're clueless.


-c