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Old May 30th 08, 07:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Jim Logajan
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote:
I'm certainly not looking for absolute perfection, but would you like
to help R&D this rigid airship anyway?


I think I can offer some guidance.
(Followups set to the only newsgroup I believe this thread now belongs.)
There are two resources you should begin with:

This paper:
"HIGH TEMPERATURE MATERIALS FOR VENUS BALLOON ENVELOPES"

Which you can find online he
http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/b.../1/95-0417.pdf

And this book, which is the most "modern" text available on the subject
of airship design:

"Airship Technology" Edited by Khoury and Gillett

Available he
http://www.amazon.com/Airship-Techno...29796&sr= 8-1

Other books and web sites worth adding to a research library on airships
include:

"Airship Design" by Burgess

Old but still useful and available he
http://www.amazon.com/Airship-Design...pd_sim_b_img_1

"Airship Aerodynamics" By the U.S. War Department

Originally intended for training of Navy airship personnel but a short
yet effective guide to basic concepts. Available he
http://www.amazon.com/Airship-Aerody..._bxgy_b_text_b

The website of the Experimental Lighter than Air organization:

http://www.xlta.org/

There are a couple of PDF docs worth downloading in the LIBRARY page and
further links to other sites in the LINKS page (naturally).

Hope some of this helps.
  #2  
Old May 31st 08, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote in
:

On May 29, 7:47 am, Jay Maynard
wrote:
On 2008-05-29, BradGuth wrote:

How about the required technical expertise of flying such an
airship (robotic or manned) within that thick soup of the Venusian
lower atmosphere?


How does this relate to rec.aviation.piloting? Nobody here knows
anything about the subject, largely because *nobody* knows anything
about the subject.


I'm certainly not looking for absolute perfection, but would you like
to help R&D this rigid airship anyway?
. - Brad Guth


Hey, hey could probably make one out of old beer mats and some of those
chemical light sticks..


Bertie
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Old May 29th 08, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Dan[_12_]
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 9:42 pm, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 6:31 am, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
How the heck did my good name get sucked down into the newsgroup pit
of sci.geo.geology?
What good name?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Just because I haven't lied to myself or others about there being WMD,
nor having killed off my fair share of mostly innocent Muslims. isn't
enough just cause for speaking in a derogatory or mean spirited way
about my good name.
What do you honestly think about a federally mandated price set of $10/
gallon on civilian road and aviation fuel, so that myself and and most
all others (including yourself) I can directly and indirectly help
finance WWIII?
Of course most of everything else would likely inflate by at least
100%, but then it too is for the good cause.
Seemingly, that is what you and those of your Zionist DARPA guys and
gals of the dark side want, isn't it?
. - Brad Guth

I suppose that makes sense to you. Don't let reality get in the way
of your delusions.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


And that has what to do with the R&D of creating those composite rigid
airships for Venus?

How about the required technical expertise of flying such an airship
(robotic or manned) within that thick soup of the Venusian lower
atmosphere?

Obviously you're in favor of job security via war (hot or cold). In
that case we could go to war against whomever is currently situated on
or in any way utilizing Venus, by simply claiming they have WMD and
every intentions of utilizing such. After all, they could be
outsiders and Muslims to boot.
. - Brad Guth



Anyway, guth, back to your claim of having a "good name." In every
group you have polluted with your presence your name is equivalent to
the terms racist, paranoid, deluded, crude, dense and a few more. You'd
be hard pressed to find anyone who respects you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old May 30th 08, 05:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

On May 29, 9:37 am, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 9:42 pm, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 6:31 am, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
How the heck did my good name get sucked down into the newsgroup pit
of sci.geo.geology?
What good name?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Just because I haven't lied to myself or others about there being WMD,
nor having killed off my fair share of mostly innocent Muslims. isn't
enough just cause for speaking in a derogatory or mean spirited way
about my good name.
What do you honestly think about a federally mandated price set of $10/
gallon on civilian road and aviation fuel, so that myself and and most
all others (including yourself) I can directly and indirectly help
finance WWIII?
Of course most of everything else would likely inflate by at least
100%, but then it too is for the good cause.
Seemingly, that is what you and those of your Zionist DARPA guys and
gals of the dark side want, isn't it?
. - Brad Guth
I suppose that makes sense to you. Don't let reality get in the way
of your delusions.


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


And that has what to do with the R&D of creating those composite rigid
airships for Venus?


How about the required technical expertise of flying such an airship
(robotic or manned) within that thick soup of the Venusian lower
atmosphere?


Obviously you're in favor of job security via war (hot or cold). In
that case we could go to war against whomever is currently situated on
or in any way utilizing Venus, by simply claiming they have WMD and
every intentions of utilizing such. After all, they could be
outsiders and Muslims to boot.
. - Brad Guth


Anyway, guth, back to your claim of having a "good name." In every
group you have polluted with your presence your name is equivalent to
the terms racist, paranoid, deluded, crude, dense and a few more. You'd
be hard pressed to find anyone who respects you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Unlike yourself, I just don't like sleeping with or otherwise brown-
nosing them bad guys.
.. - Brad Guth
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Old May 30th 08, 06:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Dan[_12_]
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote:
On May 29, 9:37 am, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 9:42 pm, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 6:31 am, Dan wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
How the heck did my good name get sucked down into the newsgroup pit
of sci.geo.geology?
What good name?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Just because I haven't lied to myself or others about there being WMD,
nor having killed off my fair share of mostly innocent Muslims. isn't
enough just cause for speaking in a derogatory or mean spirited way
about my good name.
What do you honestly think about a federally mandated price set of $10/
gallon on civilian road and aviation fuel, so that myself and and most
all others (including yourself) I can directly and indirectly help
finance WWIII?
Of course most of everything else would likely inflate by at least
100%, but then it too is for the good cause.
Seemingly, that is what you and those of your Zionist DARPA guys and
gals of the dark side want, isn't it?
. - Brad Guth
I suppose that makes sense to you. Don't let reality get in the way
of your delusions.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
And that has what to do with the R&D of creating those composite rigid
airships for Venus?
How about the required technical expertise of flying such an airship
(robotic or manned) within that thick soup of the Venusian lower
atmosphere?
Obviously you're in favor of job security via war (hot or cold). In
that case we could go to war against whomever is currently situated on
or in any way utilizing Venus, by simply claiming they have WMD and
every intentions of utilizing such. After all, they could be
outsiders and Muslims to boot.
. - Brad Guth

Anyway, guth, back to your claim of having a "good name." In every
group you have polluted with your presence your name is equivalent to
the terms racist, paranoid, deluded, crude, dense and a few more. You'd
be hard pressed to find anyone who respects you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Unlike yourself, I just don't like sleeping with or otherwise brown-
nosing them bad guys.
. - Brad Guth



I'm sure that makes sense to you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old May 29th 08, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Scott Hedrick[_2_]
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth


"Dan" wrote in message
...
BradGuth wrote:
How the heck did my good name get sucked down into the newsgroup pit
of sci.geo.geology?


What good name?


If he has a good name, why doesn't he use it instead of "Brad Guth"?


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Old May 31st 08, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.balloon,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military,sci.space.history,alt.astronomy
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

"Scott Hedrick" wrote in news:e83d8$483f658f$2870
@news.teranews.com:


"Dan" wrote in message
...
BradGuth wrote:
How the heck did my good name get sucked down into the newsgroup pit
of sci.geo.geology?


What good name?


If he has a good name, why doesn't he use it instead of "Brad Guth"?


Bwawahwhhahwhahw!

Bertie

 




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