GIVEN CURRENT WARS, F-35s ARE BETTER CHOICE THAN MORE F-22As

On Jun 10, 9:02 pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
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On Jun 10, 4:20 pm, "William Black"
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What they don't need right now is large complex jet fighter/bombers
that are
designed to fight a major European war.

Until the next war?

Who with?

Right now the "who" and "with" are unknown.
Rest assured however that at some point there will be both
"who" and "with".

IBM

its best to deal with real threats now than to worry about a hypothetical
threat that will probably never materialize.

Can you guarantee that?

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On Jun 10, 9:02 pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
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"Ian B MacLure" wrote in
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"William Black" wrote in
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On Jun 10, 4:20 pm, "William Black"
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What they don't need right now is large complex jet fighter/bombers
that are
designed to fight a major European war.

Until the next war?

Who with?

Right now the "who" and "with" are unknown.
Rest assured however that at some point there will be both
"who" and "with".

IBM

its best to deal with real threats now than to worry about a hypothetical
threat that will probably never materialize.

Can you guarantee that?

can you envision any scenario in which the U.S. and russia fight?
are we going to invade them? i think we'd notice a huge naval build up for
them to invade us?
do you think they are going to overrun europe?

"Raymond O'Hara" wrote in
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can you envision any scenario in which the U.S. and russia fight?
are we going to invade them? i think we'd notice a huge naval build up
for them to invade us?
do you think they are going to overrun europe?

Still in a state of denial from the last war I see.

IBM

"Ian B MacLure" wrote in message
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"Raymond O'Hara" wrote in
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can you envision any scenario in which the U.S. and russia fight?
are we going to invade them? i think we'd notice a huge naval build up
for them to invade us?
do you think they are going to overrun europe?

Still in a state of denial from the last war I see.

IBM


huh? do you mean WWII? or what?

"Raymond O'Hara" wrote in news:aeudndUYX8-
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Still in a state of denial from the last war I see.

IBM


huh? do you mean WWII? or what?

Pick one. Any one will do for you apparently.

IBM

On Jun 10, 10:11*pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
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can you envision any scenario in which the U.S. and russia fight?
are we going to invade them? i think we'd notice a huge naval build up for
them to invade us?
do you think they are going to overrun europe?- Hide quoted text -

Sure, Russia has already taken military action in Northern Asia, and
is attempting to re-annex one of their former Soviet states. It is
unlikely that the US would intervene there, but its possible.

A less likely scenario, but a more likely US intervention would around
Russia's on-going conflict with Japan over the Kurile islands.

Other potential adversaries with strong air capabilities are China
(conflicts with India, Vietnam, Phillipeans, Taiwan), and Venezuala
(conflicts will all of their neighbors).

France thought WWII would be fought in much the same way as WWI, slow
stagnated trench warfare. That's what they were prepared for, and
that's why they got their butts kicked.

On Jun 13, 10:59 am, Airyx wrote:
On Jun 10, 10:11 pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
wrote:

can you envision any scenario in which the U.S. and russia fight?
are we going to invade them? i think we'd notice a huge naval build up for
them to invade us?
do you think they are going to overrun europe?- Hide quoted text -

Sure, Russia has already taken military action in Northern Asia, and
is attempting to re-annex one of their former Soviet states. It is
unlikely that the US would intervene there, but its possible.

A less likely scenario, but a more likely US intervention would around
Russia's on-going conflict with Japan over the Kurile islands.

Other potential adversaries with strong air capabilities are China
(conflicts with India, Vietnam, Phillipeans, Taiwan), and Venezuala
(conflicts will all of their neighbors).

France thought WWII would be fought in much the same way as WWI, slow
stagnated trench warfare. That's what they were prepared for, and
that's why they got their butts kicked.

I'm curious, where has Russia taken miltary action in Northern Asia?
Does Mongolia or China know?

And saying Russia has a conflict with japan over the Kurile Islands is
an exaggeration. That conflict was over 60 years ago.

"Dean" wrote in message news:15867593-e4e5-4269-a87d-
And saying Russia has a conflict with japan over the Kurile Islands is
an exaggeration. That conflict was over 60 years ago.


japan would like sakhalin back but a wars worth of want.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:45:37 -0700, Dean wrote:


I'm curious, where has Russia taken miltary action in Northern Asia?
Does Mongolia or China know?

Yes. They got into a multidivisional spitting match back in 1969 along
the Uri and Ussuri rivers. Border dispute. It's why the Soviets set up the
Fortified Area Troops.

--
"Implications leading to ramifications leading to shenanigans"-- Admiral
Elmo Zumwalt, USN.

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On Jun 10, 10:11 pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
Other potential adversaries with strong air capabilities are China
(conflicts with India, Vietnam, Phillipeans, Taiwan), and Venezuala
(conflicts will all of their neighbors).


the only scenario we'd get involved in is china/taiwan. and increasingly we
look like we might sell taiwan out even more than we have.

nixon should have made taiwan and china renounce all claims each has on the
other. his great triumph was a sham


we won't intervene in any china/india or china/vietnam affairs. nither india
or VN are historic allies and india was closer to the soviets than us in
the cold war.


venezuela might have oil money but they are not a power. as to their
neighbors, why would they or anybody attac guyana
and the cali cartel is probably better armed and trained than chavez's army.


china is the only real possiblity and they are a long way from being able to
even dream about invading taiwan.


we are the only country with any ability to project power overseas for the
forseeable future.