A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Owning
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Depression after Washing



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 28th 08, 07:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mxsmanic
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,169
Default Depression after Washing

gatt writes:

Thanks for clearing that up for all the pilots and aircraft owners,
Anthony. I'm sure without your experience it would never occur to them.


It certainly would never occur to some of them, given the exceptions of which
I've become aware.
  #2  
Old June 28th 08, 11:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,735
Default Depression after Washing

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

gatt writes:

Thanks for clearing that up for all the pilots and aircraft owners,
Anthony. I'm sure without your experience it would never occur to
them.


It certainly would never occur to some of them, given the exceptions
of which I've become aware.


You're not aware of anything outside your own colon.


Bertie
  #3  
Old July 3rd 08, 12:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mike[_22_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 466
Default Depression after Washing

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Larry Dighera writes:

Why?


They might total the airplane that you share. They might not maintain it
properly. They might damage it without telling anyone. There are many
possibilities.


Totaling the aircraft is a non-issue. That's what insurance is for. Damage
is a non-issue. That's what the pre-flight is for.

It requires that they be responsible adults, preferably business
people who can afford to own 1/3 of an aircraft.


Many adults aren't that responsible. Pilots get themselves killed often
enough; why would they be any more cautious for someone else's sake?


I've been in a couple of shared ownership situations and have had no
problems. The biggest concern is actually a deadbeat partner that doesn't
cover their share of the recurring fixed costs. That's why a good up-front
agreement with collection abilities is a must.

My first partnership had 7 other owners. I was putting almost half the
yearly hours on the plane. Basically I was doing the flying and others were
paying the bills. It was a beautiful arrangement.

  #4  
Old July 3rd 08, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mxsmanic
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,169
Default Depression after Washing

Mike writes:

Totaling the aircraft is a non-issue. That's what insurance is for. Damage
is a non-issue. That's what the pre-flight is for.


The greater the number of aircraft totaled, the higher the insurance premiums,
so it's not quite a non-issue.

And you can miss things during a pre-flight inspection.

My first partnership had 7 other owners. I was putting almost half the
yearly hours on the plane. Basically I was doing the flying and others were
paying the bills. It was a beautiful arrangement.


Sounds nice. Why didn't the other owners use the plane much?
  #5  
Old July 3rd 08, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,735
Default Depression after Washing

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Mike writes:

Totaling the aircraft is a non-issue. That's what insurance is for.
Damage is a non-issue. That's what the pre-flight is for.


The greater the number of aircraft totaled, the higher the insurance
premiums, so it's not quite a non-issue.

And you can miss things during a pre-flight inspection.

My first partnership had 7 other owners. I was putting almost half
the yearly hours on the plane. Basically I was doing the flying and
others were paying the bills. It was a beautiful arrangement.


Sounds nice. Why didn't the other owners use the plane much?


Probalby couldn't fly./

Like you.

Bertie
  #6  
Old July 3rd 08, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 943
Default Depression after Washing

Sounds nice. Why didn't the other owners use the plane much?

Because people are often poor estimators of time. In the case of
partners/flying club members in aircraft, pilots are often high-achieving,
hard-working folks who lead busy lives. I call them "doers".

Doers *think* they're gonna fly every other day, just like they think they
can (and often do) accomplish anything, so they get involved in owning an
airplane -- only to discover that their lives are already full. So, flying
becomes something they can only do as time permits -- and there isn't a lot
of unused time in a doers life.

So, the planes tend to sit a lot. It's a sweet deal if you have more
available time than the other partners.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #7  
Old July 4th 08, 06:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mike[_22_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 466
Default Depression after Washing

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Mike writes:

Totaling the aircraft is a non-issue. That's what insurance is for.
Damage
is a non-issue. That's what the pre-flight is for.


The greater the number of aircraft totaled, the higher the insurance
premiums,
so it's not quite a non-issue.

And you can miss things during a pre-flight inspection.


If you miss damage during the pre-flight, then you're not doing a
pre-flight.

My first partnership had 7 other owners. I was putting almost half the
yearly hours on the plane. Basically I was doing the flying and others
were
paying the bills. It was a beautiful arrangement.


Sounds nice. Why didn't the other owners use the plane much?


There were a lot of old guys who were part owners. They basically just
wanted access to a decent plane once or twice a year to go on a trip and
they would fly short trips every other month or so just to stay current. A
couple of them had let their medicals expire possibly because they suspected
they wouldn't pass and they didn't fly at all. I suppose being part owner
in a plane allowed them to stay in touch with their youth for a modest
monthly recurring charge. I don't know and I didn't bother asking. They
were paying their bills and that was good enough for me.

  #8  
Old June 27th 08, 09:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,735
Default Depression after Washing

Mxsmanic wrote in
news
Larry Dighera writes:

Not so. Sharing a plane among three or four pilot/owners makes it
affordable and fun.


That requires a great deal of trust in the other pilots/owners.


Whoosh

Bertie
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Depression after Washing Charles Talleyrand Piloting 64 July 12th 08 02:13 PM
Washing a fiberglass airplane City Dweller Owning 5 May 22nd 06 02:13 AM
Depression and flying Flyingmonk Piloting 44 February 13th 06 02:28 PM
Washing - how often? Reid & Julie Baldwin Owning 15 May 7th 05 07:15 AM
US debt is higher now than during Depression WalterM140 Military Aviation 9 March 31st 04 05:30 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.