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Old July 19th 08, 03:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Morgans[_2_]
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"Drew Dalgleish" wrote

I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


Nap of the earth flying, jinking, turning and diving and climbing.

I believe they have to stay close to the pipeline for their sniffers to
work. That would put more stress on the airframe than training, except for
the landing gear.
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Old July 19th 08, 04:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article ,
"Morgans" wrote:

"Drew Dalgleish" wrote

I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


Nap of the earth flying, jinking, turning and diving and climbing.


and the bumps down low...not much smooth air down close.

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Old July 19th 08, 08:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Morgans" writes:


I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


Nap of the earth flying, jinking, turning and diving and climbing.


I believe they have to stay close to the pipeline for their sniffers to
work. That would put more stress on the airframe than training, except for
the landing gear.


Sniffers? The patrol plane that flew our lines uses a Mark One eyeball.

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Old July 21st 08, 02:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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David Lesher wrote:
"Morgans" writes:


I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


Nap of the earth flying, jinking, turning and diving and climbing.


I believe they have to stay close to the pipeline for their sniffers to
work. That would put more stress on the airframe than training, except for
the landing gear.


Sniffers? The patrol plane that flew our lines uses a Mark One eyeball.



Mk I eyeball is all the guys that fly pipeline around here use.
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Old July 19th 08, 11:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"David Lesher" wrote

Sniffers? The patrol plane that flew our lines uses a Mark One eyeball.


What type of lines? Buried or surface?
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Old July 19th 08, 11:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"David Lesher" wrote

Sniffers? The patrol plane that flew our lines uses a Mark One eyeball.


What type of lines? Buried or surface?
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Old July 19th 08, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I was typically at 500 feet (or a bit more)and the air was pretty
smooth. Early morning. I know others used it as an excuse to low fly the
route. Having to pull up for fences and trees. I think the hotdogging
was hard on the airplane.

Drew Dalgleish wrote:
How many of those hours were spent doing pipeline patrols or other
activities that are tough on the airframe? It is my recollection that
piper wing separations tended to occur on hightime airframes that
also spent considerable time doing pipeline patrols.

otoh - 11,000 hours on that warrior is how many hours per year?

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I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


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Old July 21st 08, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Drew Dalgleish wrote:

I would have thought pipeline patrol to be pretty easy hours. Flying
straight and level for long periods and mostly well under gross. What
am I missing?


Nope, down low and if the wings are level for more than about 30 seconds
at a time it is because the pilot is on final.
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Old August 5th 08, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On 2008-07-18, Bob Noel wrote:
How many of those hours were spent doing pipeline patrols or other
activities that are tough on the airframe?


I have only ever seen pipeline patrol being done by high wing aircraft -
never a Cherokee.

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Old August 6th 08, 12:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article ,
Dylan Smith wrote:

On 2008-07-18, Bob Noel wrote:
How many of those hours were spent doing pipeline patrols or other
activities that are tough on the airframe?


I have only ever seen pipeline patrol being done by high wing aircraft -
never a Cherokee.


IIRC A couple of the cherokees that had wing spar failures which lead
to the (short-lived) wing spar AD were high time aircraft previously
involved in pipeline patrols. I realize that high wing aircraft are
have better visibility for such patrols.

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