Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers

BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can
navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations
to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

Because I am absolutely certain, any real pilot already knows the answer,
and you are just trolling.

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can
navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations
to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of his
questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help others....like
"why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I went through a bunch
of his q's and although they are very juvenile and elementary, many in this
community got the answers wrong. So take the Q's as they are...you
know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of gin, some ice and make
yourself a nice drink...or something like that. Iow, make the most of it
and use his q's to educate all those who are listening in. If you can't
answer his q's then please shut up and he'll go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.

"Bob F." wrote in message
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If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of
his questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help
others....like "why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I
went through a bunch of his q's and although they are very juvenile and
elementary, many in this community got the answers wrong. So take the Q's
as they are...you know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of gin,
some ice and make yourself a nice drink...or something like that. Iow,
make the most of it and use his q's to educate all those who are listening
in. If you can't answer his q's then please shut up and he'll go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.

Go **** yourself Bob. You're either terminally stupid or a hopeless
sockpuppet.

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction
computations. Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to
compute ground speed. Correct the heading slightly based on
"observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which
presumably includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies
that you can navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using
calculations to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by
visual features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?


Wassamatta, maxie, runnninga away from the bertster? Decided to pick on
Maxie instead?

;(



Bertie

On Aug 24, 8:09*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
BT writes:
What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed..
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. *Successful pilotage implies that you can navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. *If you are using calculations to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. *I do try to navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

Well,, well,, chalk one up for the desktop pilot and one down for BT!

On Aug 25, 9:46 am, Ricky wrote:
On Aug 24, 8:09 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

BT writes:
What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

Well,, well,, chalk one up for the desktop pilot and one down for BT!

For what it's worth, pilotage is sweaty finger on a chart, point to
point flying. Dead reckoning is a corruption of the phrase deduced
reckoning, and comes about from the sailing days where one would
attempt to take into account all of the influences on the track over
the bottom -- wind, currents, estimated speed and so on, to deduce
where one would be at a given time. In a way a NDB approach has a lot
of dead reckoning built into the procedure. The pilot knows where the
airplane was when it crosses over the beacon, and taking into account
wind drift and a hint of wind velocity as learned from the procedure
turn inbound, 'deduces' where the airport might be. If the deductions
and piloting is correct, when (s)he looks up after the correct amount
of time passes by, the airport should be right there. I am so glad I
don't have to fly many NDB approaches any more. None precision indeed!

On Aug 24, 5:52*pm, "BT" wrote:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

BT

Hmmm? I think what you are describing above is dead reckoning, not
pilotage.