Mode S transponder display to ATC?

Michael Huber writes:
Peter wrote:

You would however get into trouble if you recorded ATC and then openly
published the recording, e.g. on a website. I don't know why there is
this sensitivity because UK ATC are generally highly professional;

Maybe a parallel to Germany might help. In Germany, tapping into any
communication not intended by the sender to be heard/read/whatever by
oneself is illegal (regardless of whether there are measures taken to
prevent this) under privacy laws. There are some exceptions, but that's the
general rule. ATC communication is only intended for a limited circle of
recipients. Plane spotters are not the intended recipients, thus, they may
not listen.

It has nothing to do with perceived professionality of the ATC people, and
everything with protecting the privacy of ATC and pilots.

The law in the U.S. is/was that it's illegal to intercept
/and reveal/ the content of a transmission. The courts
have repeatedly ruled that intercepting (listening to) a
transmission is not illegal.

It would seem that the German position is rather extreme
in that the people on a given aviation frequency have no
expectation of privacy (and, for the most part, couldn't
care less). Taken to an extreme, it would seem that the
German equivalent of the FAA can't record ATC transmissions
and use them for quality control, training, or violation
proceedings since uninvolved third parties will have been
recorded.

Everett M. Greene writes:

It would seem that the German position is rather extreme
in that the people on a given aviation frequency have no
expectation of privacy (and, for the most part, couldn't
care less). Taken to an extreme, it would seem that the
German equivalent of the FAA can't record ATC transmissions
and use them for quality control, training, or violation
proceedings since uninvolved third parties will have been
recorded.

In Germany, everything is forbidden, except that which is permitted.

Anthony, since you don't fly, your comments are again irrelevant. You do not
need a transponder, two way radio, or even a seat belt. You should go back
to the breast feeding forums.

Everett M. Greene wrote:

Michael Huber writes:

Peter wrote:


You would however get into trouble if you recorded ATC and then openly
published the recording, e.g. on a website. I don't know why there is
this sensitivity because UK ATC are generally highly professional;

Maybe a parallel to Germany might help. In Germany, tapping into any
communication not intended by the sender to be heard/read/whatever by
oneself is illegal (regardless of whether there are measures taken to
prevent this) under privacy laws. There are some exceptions, but that's the
general rule. ATC communication is only intended for a limited circle of
recipients. Plane spotters are not the intended recipients, thus, they may
not listen.

It has nothing to do with perceived professionality of the ATC people, and
everything with protecting the privacy of ATC and pilots.


The law in the U.S. is/was that it's illegal to intercept
/and reveal/ the content of a transmission. The courts
have repeatedly ruled that intercepting (listening to) a
transmission is not illegal.

It would seem that the German position is rather extreme
in that the people on a given aviation frequency have no
expectation of privacy (and, for the most part, couldn't
care less). Taken to an extreme, it would seem that the
German equivalent of the FAA can't record ATC transmissions
and use them for quality control, training, or violation
proceedings since uninvolved third parties will have been
recorded.

It makes you understand why they launched both World Wars.

Sam Spade wrote:

It makes you understand why they launched both World Wars.

I'm aware that you're trolling, but how does that follow? The rather strict
privacy laws exist to make it harder for a government (or, really, any
organization or individual) to collect too much data on a single person -
and that is exactly to help prevent a dictatorship.

Sadly, though, that lesson seems to have fallen by the wayside, and more and
more privacy is being invaded by the government. We are following the US'
bad example.

Everett M. Greene wrote:

Taken to an extreme, it would seem that the
German equivalent of the FAA can't record ATC transmissions
and use them for quality control, training, or violation
proceedings since uninvolved third parties will have been
recorded.

No, it's not. ATC comms are recorded and that is public knowledge (at least
among those participating). You basically consent to being recorded by
transmitting.

Realize that privacy laws do not protect you against other people listening
in or recording what you are saying. They are however protecting you
against being listened to or recorded *without* *your* *knowledge*.

Michael Huber writes:

Realize that privacy laws do not protect you against other people listening
in or recording what you are saying. They are however protecting you
against being listened to or recorded *without* *your* *knowledge*.

How are you able to determine who is listening to you when you talk to ATC?