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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
I recently bought a 1972 ASW-15B. I am on a budget to fix this up.
I'm looking for stuff that works, doesn't look flashly, but fits the need. I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy 2. PDA device and connections 3. Wing Rigger so I can assemble by myself 4.Gear so I can tow it by myself to the runway Thank You - Scott Alexander |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
On Oct 22, 7:06*pm, wrote:
I recently bought a 1972 ASW-15B. *I am on a budget to fix this up. I'm looking for stuff that works, doesn't look flashly, but fits the need. I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy 2. PDA device and connections 3. Wing Rigger so I can assemble by myself 4.Gear so I can tow it by myself to the runway Go to ebay for the PDA, -the 3900 series works well for about $100.00. XCsoar flight software is free and works very well... http://www.xcsoar.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page For an inexpensive wing rigger check out this link.. http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Co...rier/LWT-3.htm Good luck, Scott. Mike |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
On Oct 22, 9:06*pm, wrote:
I recently bought a 1972 ASW-15B. *I am on a budget to fix this up. I'm looking for stuff that works, doesn't look flashly, but fits the need. I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy 2. PDA device and connections 3. Wing Rigger so I can assemble by myself 4.Gear so I can tow it by myself to the runway Thank You - Scott Alexander Note that for Sports Class (USA) regional level contests that a PDA based logger is acceptable. Feed it with a cheap hand held GPS (used Garmin 12xl or similar) and you can potentially have GPS Nav/logger for a couple hundred bucks. Have fun with your '15! -T8 |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
Have a look at Paul Remdes page - http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/
for PDA /GPS set ups. Many options, many pretty cheap and great support. Wing riggers are not cheap. www.wingrigger.com looks like a good choice for bang-for-a-buck but will still run around $1000 with shipping. I think you could fashion your own tow out gear or have someone do it for pretty little $. I'd be happy to send you photos of mine (ASW15) if you'd like. Mike ASW15 |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
I think you could fashion your own tow out gear or have
someone do it for pretty little $. I'd be happy to send you photos of mine (ASW15) if you'd like. Mike ASW15 Mike that would be fantastic....shoot those pictures to my email....thank you! |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:47:45 -0700, tangoeight wrote:
Note that for Sports Class (USA) regional level contests that a PDA based logger is acceptable. Feed it with a cheap hand held GPS (used Garmin 12xl or similar) and you can potentially have GPS Nav/logger for a couple hundred bucks. The ASW-15 panel is fairly small and has a very deep glare shield lip, so using a blind GPS might be an attractive way to have a less cluttered panel. As you'll be running XCSoar or equivalent on the PDA you're going to put in all turnpoints etc. on the PDA and will never need to use the controls on a GPS except to turn it on or off, so using a blind GPS and putting it somewhere out of sight under the glare shield would make sense. Blind GPS units are just plastic blobs with a wire sticking out: no controls at all. You can mount it on top of the panel instruments where it can see out through the glare shield. A Garmin GPS-35 or any of the current "hockey puck" blind GPS units would work provided their input and output voltages are OK. You need one that runs off 12v and whose output levels match the PDA, e.g. the GPS-35 HVS model runs off 12v and outputs RS-232 signal levels, so its compatible with almost any logger or PDA. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
On Oct 23, 2:06*am, wrote:
I recently bought a 1972 ASW-15B. *I am on a budget to fix this up. I'm looking for stuff that works, doesn't look flashly, but fits the need. I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy Depends what your rules require. If you want a badge-worthy logger, the cheapest option if you can find it will be something like an EW model D with an approved GPS, but it will take time to find them on Ebay. If buying new, the new EW Microrecorder is well worth considering - it've very simple, can be fed 12v from the glider's supply and if you do that it can feed not only the NMEA stuff to a PDA, but also 5v. 2. PDA device and connections Look into a Palm device from Ebay (depends on what model, something like the M500 which is b&w is worth looking for otherwise the word goes that a Tungsten T is the thing to use) and Soaring Pilot which is free. 3. Wing Rigger so I can assemble by myself If you know someone who has one (to copy) and someone who can weld, a bit of bribery might work cheap wonders. 4.Gear so I can tow it by myself to the runway Same answer as #3, but you have to take great care it will do the job without damaging the glider. Buying #3 and #4 might cost as much as the glider did. However none of the airline pilots I know are broke, or anything like it! |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
On Oct 22, 8:06*pm, wrote:
I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy 2. PDA device and connections Current US contest rules require "category 1" (IGC blessed) or "category 2" (see the list) recorders except for sports regionals where "category 3" recorders meaning just a pda software are allowed. See the rules http://www.ssa.org/files/member/Rules2008Regional.pdf There is a proposal before the rules committee to allow some Commercial Off The Shelf (typcially Garmin) units, plus G7towin or similar software, as category 2 recorders. These would cost about $150 and seem to provide adequate security. On the other hand, I'm not sure how long category 3 will last, even in sports class. It's just too tempting to open the file with notepad, elminate those two fixes in the restricted area, change a few altitudes from 18101 feet to 17499 feet etc. Loggers that don't make a G record, which can be too easily spoofed into making one on fake data, or for which winscore can't verify security via DLLs may not last long. With that in mind, if you suspect you'll be in contest soaring for a while, I'd recommend blowing the bucks on a category 1 or 2 recorder. This will avoid what everyone else goes through, blowing 3 times the money on a sequence of "cheap" alternatives that you then abandon. Otherwise, I'd wait until December to see what the RC comes up with in the ongoing logger saga. John Cochrane BB |
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
Since you can't read my email above.... it is liv2soar(at)yahoo.com
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Broke Airline Pilot needs "stuff" for an ASW-15B
is there any hope that XC-Soar will get IGC approval for their logger?
Brad On Oct 23, 7:57*am, BB wrote: On Oct 22, 8:06*pm, wrote: I need a: 1. GPS data logger thats contest worthy 2. PDA device and connections Current US contest rules require "category 1" (IGC blessed) or "category 2" (see the list) recorders except for sports regionals where "category 3" recorders meaning just a pda software are allowed. See the rules http://www.ssa.org/files/member/Rules2008Regional.pdf There is a proposal before the rules committee to allow some Commercial Off The Shelf (typcially Garmin) units, plus G7towin or similar software, as category 2 recorders. These would cost about $150 and seem to provide adequate security. On the other hand, I'm not sure how long category 3 will last, even in sports class. It's just too tempting to open the file with notepad, elminate those two fixes in the restricted area, change a few altitudes from 18101 feet to 17499 feet etc. Loggers that don't make a G record, which can be too easily spoofed into making one on fake data, or for which winscore can't verify security via DLLs may not last long. With that in mind, if you suspect you'll be in contest soaring for a while, I'd recommend blowing the bucks on a category 1 or 2 recorder. This will avoid what everyone else goes through, blowing 3 times the money on a sequence of "cheap" alternatives that you then abandon. Otherwise, I'd wait until December to see what the RC comes up with in the ongoing logger saga. John Cochrane BB |
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