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On Nov 1, 11:55*am, wrote:
No sour grapes here. I've been a little out of the loop for a couple of years when it comes to matters of officialdom. However, if you're going to play the game, officially, you need to be up on things. I know this from past experience, and it really is my fault for not checking more thoroughly ahead of time. Dear Gary, I feel for you, having flown such a great flight and then to find out that your recorder is no longer IGC-approved for World Records or FAI/ IGC badge flights. Mind you, in my record-breaking days I had a number of flights turned down for failures to comply with one aspect of the rules or another, so I've been there too! One flight I did before the days of IGC-approved recorders, was turned down because the proof that the motor glider engine had not been run was not positive enough. So, the next weekend I flew it again but had an OO seal the engine inside the engine bay with tape (which could have been broken if I needed to run the engine to prevent a field landing). The tape was unbroken at the end of the flight and it was validated. Now, with IGC-approved recorders we have a much better worldwide system. As you generously say above, you should have checked. On that point, it it easy for anyone to check by simply going to the IGC GNSS web site and downloading the latest IGC-approval document for that type of recorder. In your case the three legacy Cambridge models 10, 20 and 25. Go to: http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss then go straight to the end where there is the list of IGC-approval documents for all 43 types of IGC-approved GPS recorders from 16 different manufacturers. BTW, there are three new types of recorder under test for IGC-approval at this moment. On the IGC GNSS web site, there are also free downloads and many other things. For example, the free IGC Shell program for downloading and validating IGC files, which was created by distinguished SSA member Marc Ramsey, who often posts on this newsgroup. The issue with the three legacy Cambridge models was wider than the lack of Public/Private Key security. With 43 types of recorders with all sorts of different characteristics, it was becoming more and more difficult to treat them all in the same way. Therefore, in 2005, IGC introduced a series of different IGC-approval levels for ALL IGC- approved recorders. These levels are listed in para 1.1.3.3 of Annex B to the Sporting Code (also on the IGC web pages). Another factor with the legacy Cambridges is that the IGC Validation process does not work with the IGC file, only with the CAI binary format. There have been several cases of pilots losing flight validation because they did not realise this and lost the CAI file. The IGC GFA Committee asked Cambridge several times to change their external software so that IGC file would validate directly, but this was not done in the commercial turbulence that happened after Dr David Ellis sold the business and it moved from Vermont. You might think that you could always go back to the recorder and extract the CAI binary. However, this may not be in the recorder because with these early models, if setup information is changed, previous flights are erasedfrom the memory. Bear in mind that the memory capacity of all older-generation recorders is much less than modern ones and, except for the Volkslogger, old files are over-written when the memory is full. For instance, I remember a flight by Chris Rollings that was over 12 hours and his legacy Cambridge recorder ran out of memory at a 4 second fix interval and started over-writing the first bit of the flight. If you read the IGC-approval document for the legacy Cambridges, these cautionary notes are included, and some others. So that's the moral, every now and again go and look at the information provided free for you on the IGC web site ! Regards to all SSA people from this side of the pond, Ian Strachan Chairman IGC GFA Committee Lasham Gliding Centre, UK |
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On Friday, October 31, 2008 at 12:30:04 PM UTC-7, Brian Bange wrote:
FAI has canceled the following Class D (Gliders) World record : ================================================ Claim number : 15103 Sub-class ![]() Category: General Type of record : Free Distance Course/location : Zapata, TX (USA) Performance : 791 km Pilot : William G. OSOBA (USA) Glider : Woodstock Date :19.07.2008 Current record : 627.60 km (09.07.2004 - Leonardo R. BENETTI-LONGHINI, USA) Reason for cancellation: No dossier received in due time by NAC ================================================ Are there tows available near the Zapata area? When is the best time frame to go for long straight out flights? Doug Levy |
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Doug,
Tows are not usually available in Zapata except during the hang gliding world record encampment which occurs every summer, usually in July. Check Ozreport.com for a calendar of dates. Towing is for ultralight gliders and hang gliders only. Not fast enough for heavy sailplanes. Are there tows available near the Zapata area? When is the best time frame to go for long straight out flights? Doug Levy |
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