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I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.

Well, MT-Newswatcher is better than anything I've seen on PCs

I prefer Thunderbird. No whistles or bells and limited filter
management, but simple, fast and straight forward.

In article
,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:53*pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

*"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. *I wonder if it will ever
recover...

With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.

RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.

I'm using eternal-september.org (previously motzarella.org) for my news
service. They provide a real news server that's 100% free and pretty
good. You sound like you're happy, but for others who don't like Google
Groups, that's a good alternative.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

"Mike Ash" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:53 pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. I wonder if it will ever
recover...

With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.

RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.

I'm using eternal-september.org (previously motzarella.org) for my news
service. They provide a real news server that's 100% free and pretty
good. You sound like you're happy, but for others who don't like Google
Groups, that's a good alternative.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

I only see 13 available groups when I try this server :-(

In article ,
"John E. Carty" wrote:

"Mike Ash" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:53 pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. I wonder if it will ever
recover...

With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.

RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.

I'm using eternal-september.org (previously motzarella.org) for my news
service. They provide a real news server that's 100% free and pretty
good. You sound like you're happy, but for others who don't like Google
Groups, that's a good alternative.

I only see 13 available groups when I try this server :-(

I think that's what happens when you log in anonymously. You have to
sign up (for free, but you still need an account) to get access to the
full list of groups. Go to http://eternal-september.org/ and click User
Registration to get an account, then set up your newsreader to
authenticate with the account information and you should be set.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

"Mike Ash" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"John E. Carty" wrote:

"Mike Ash" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:53 pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality
and
quantity of discussions we used to have. I wonder if it will ever
recover...

With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.

RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.

I'm using eternal-september.org (previously motzarella.org) for my news
service. They provide a real news server that's 100% free and pretty
good. You sound like you're happy, but for others who don't like Google
Groups, that's a good alternative.

I only see 13 available groups when I try this server :-(

I think that's what happens when you log in anonymously. You have to
sign up (for free, but you still need an account) to get access to the
full list of groups. Go to http://eternal-september.org/ and click User
Registration to get an account, then set up your newsreader to
authenticate with the account information and you should be set.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

Now I've got them all, Thanks :-)

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...

I know most people hate Google Groups

You can count me in that group.

I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.

Hey! Use what you like! For me, it is not just a matter of filtering
the nitwits. Google Groups serves as an easy pathway for spammers. At a
wild guess, 90% of the spam you see on Usenet comes through Google Groups,
and Google could care less. Those of us using NNTP servers and news readers
are spared much of that spam, both from the filtering the NNTP folks do and
from a few obvious filters that anyone can set in their news reader. I
can't help you on the Apple reader, but access to an NNTP server is neither
hard to find nor expensive. Just see my sig file.


Vaughn

.................................................. .......
Nothing personal, but if you are posting through Google Groups I may not
receive
your message. Google refuses to control the flood of spam messages
originating
in their system, so on any given day I may or may not have Google blocked.
Try
a real NNTP server & news reader program and you will never go back. All
you
need is access to an NNTP server (AKA "news server") and a news reader
program.
You probably already have a news reader program in your computer (Hint:
Outlook
Express). Assuming that your Usenet needs are modest, use
http://www.cnntp.org/
and/or, http://news.aioe.org/ and/or http://www.motzarella.org/ and/or
https://www.x-privat.org/index.php for free, and/or
http://www.teranews.com/ for a one-time $3.95 setup fee. Newsguy,
http://www.newsguy.com/ offers a variety of reasonably priced services. If
you
wish to experiment with real Usenet access, they will give you a free 2-day
trial account.
........

"Dudley Henriques" wrote


RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.
Dudley Henriques

Try nntp.aioe.org, for a server. Free, no binaries. No ISP news server needed.
--
Jim in NC

Bob Noel schrieb:
With ISPs dropping newsgroups (...)

Bob - as you know - there is at least a solution for folks using
rec.aviation.*

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