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Old August 9th 10, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
brianDG303[_2_]
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Default Uvalde fatality

On Aug 9, 9:09*am, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
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'brianDG303[_2_ Wrote:

;736923']On Aug 6, 1:21*pm, JJ Sinclair wrote:-
When Chris started a new magazine (Soaring Pilot) *a few years back,
he asked me to write a colum titled (In the Barn) where I would tell
the tale of the last flight of a ship that ended up in my spare parts
barn. Sadly, Chris's ship now has a tale to tell of its last flight.
This is a beautiful sport, but it can bite you.
Rest in peace old friend, I'll meet you under that distant Cu, some
day.
JJ-


That makes 4 fatal glider accidents in the US alone in 4 weeks.


Is there somewhere where one can identify these accidents and their
potential causes? *I follow gliding quite closely and I would presume
that unless the accident was at a national meet such as O'C's or local
to you, it would not get much national coverage. *Please advise if you
can as the location and nature of the other three accidents within the
last four weeks.

Walt

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Google NTSB
then hit Aviation
then hit Accident Database & Synopses

this will give you a lot of information in it's database but does not
usually mention CONTEST which seems to be a big factor in accidents.
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Old August 9th 10, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default Uvalde fatality

On Aug 9, 12:51*pm, brianDG303 wrote:
On Aug 9, 9:09*am, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.



wrote:
'brianDG303[_2_ Wrote:


;736923']On Aug 6, 1:21*pm, JJ Sinclair wrote:-
When Chris started a new magazine (Soaring Pilot) *a few years back,
he asked me to write a colum titled (In the Barn) where I would tell
the tale of the last flight of a ship that ended up in my spare parts
barn. Sadly, Chris's ship now has a tale to tell of its last flight.
This is a beautiful sport, but it can bite you.
Rest in peace old friend, I'll meet you under that distant Cu, some
day.
JJ-


That makes 4 fatal glider accidents in the US alone in 4 weeks.


Is there somewhere where one can identify these accidents and their
potential causes? *I follow gliding quite closely and I would presume
that unless the accident was at a national meet such as O'C's or local
to you, it would not get much national coverage. *Please advise if you
can as the location and nature of the other three accidents within the
last four weeks.


Walt


--
Walt Connelly


Google NTSB
then hit Aviation
then hit Accident Database & Synopses

this will give you a lot of information in it's database but does not
usually mention CONTEST which seems to be a big factor in accidents.


Look at the dates of the accidents and see how many you can correlate
to contest dates and draw your own conclusions. Cindy B had a
convention talk on what the reports don't tell you. I can tell you
that the true facts of some accidents don't emerge until years later
and never make it to the database.

Preliminary reports appear on the FAA web site for ten days before
they move to the NTSB site. Not all incidents and accidents appear, a
point a friend and I were musing over recently. Could be there's a
public/private switch on a record so it's suppressed from public view
in some cases.

If you look at today's prelims on the FAA site, you will see the HK36
Dimona fatal in Oregon and a group looped L-33 on a lake bed in
California. If you check daily you will be astonished.

Frank Whiteley
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Old August 10th 10, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Cochrane
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Since the NTSB database is searchable, you can look for "contest" or
"race" to get accidents in contests.

I did this a while back for a SSA convention talk, and put together
the numbers up to 2002,

http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john...est_safety.ppt

The numbers need an update. Many non-injury crashes don't get
reported, so this is an undercount of course

John Cochrane
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Old August 9th 10, 10:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Aug 9, 12:09*pm, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
wrote:
'brianDG303[_2_ Wrote:

;736923']On Aug 6, 1:21*pm, JJ Sinclair wrote:-
When Chris started a new magazine (Soaring Pilot) *a few years back,
he asked me to write a colum titled (In the Barn) where I would tell
the tale of the last flight of a ship that ended up in my spare parts
barn. Sadly, Chris's ship now has a tale to tell of its last flight.
This is a beautiful sport, but it can bite you.
Rest in peace old friend, I'll meet you under that distant Cu, some
day.
JJ-


That makes 4 fatal glider accidents in the US alone in 4 weeks.


Is there somewhere where one can identify these accidents and their
potential causes? *I follow gliding quite closely and I would presume
that unless the accident was at a national meet such as O'C's or local
to you, it would not get much national coverage. *Please advise if you
can as the location and nature of the other three accidents within the
last four weeks.

Walt

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Tom Knauff did an article on the subject that was published in the
last couple months in Soaring magazine which looked back about 10
years on accident causes.
Worth reading.
UH
 




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