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On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:04:07 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message .. . Without nit picking too much, why don't we use the past tense in talking about the ratings held by the Bush family. Daddy's expired when he was demobilized at the end of WWII, and Junior's expired when he deliberately failed to update his flight physical. Just one small difference. Don't know about yours, but my wings don't expire, whether I get a physical or not. Neither does my similar, but not as highly valued FAA license. They are lifetime awards. The currency of a flight physical merely enables me to exercise the privileges. No expirations. Gee, as if I didn't know that. I didn't say that anybody's wings expired.....I was talking about the recipient's entitlement to pilot military aircraft. Your privileges expire when your physical expires.....but you already knew that, and I'm surprised that you felt so insecure as to feel obliged to parse my meaning when at least 99 of every 100 former military pilots could figure out exactly what I was talking about from the words I used. I think your statement was "'past tense when talking about the ratings held". My rating as a pilot hasn't expired, nor my FAA license. Your statement was quite clear. When you leave active duty, whether your physical is current or not, you lose the "entitlement to pilot military aircraft". I can't walk out to the flight line at Buckley, even with a current physical and strap on an F-16. I think the parsing is coming from your side. And, piloting military aircraft isn't an "entitlement." It's an earned privilege. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:04:07 -0500, "George Z. Bush" wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... Without nit picking too much, why don't we use the past tense in talking about the ratings held by the Bush family. Daddy's expired when he was demobilized at the end of WWII, and Junior's expired when he deliberately failed to update his flight physical. Just one small difference. Don't know about yours, but my wings don't expire, whether I get a physical or not. Neither does my similar, but not as highly valued FAA license. They are lifetime awards. The currency of a flight physical merely enables me to exercise the privileges. No expirations. Gee, as if I didn't know that. I didn't say that anybody's wings expired.....I was talking about the recipient's entitlement to pilot military aircraft. Your privileges expire when your physical expires.....but you already knew that, and I'm surprised that you felt so insecure as to feel obliged to parse my meaning when at least 99 of every 100 former military pilots could figure out exactly what I was talking about from the words I used. I think your statement was "'past tense when talking about the ratings held". My rating as a pilot hasn't expired, nor my FAA license. Your statement was quite clear. When you leave active duty, whether your physical is current or not, you lose the "entitlement to pilot military aircraft". I can't walk out to the flight line at Buckley, even with a current physical and strap on an F-16. I think the parsing is coming from your side. And, piloting military aircraft isn't an "entitlement." It's an earned privilege. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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![]() Well, I earned the privilege, but haven't flown as pilot in command in many years. I never had the urge to go to work for the airlines and there's nothing (short of maybe "warbird" ops) that would equate with flying tactical jets. People often ask, why I didn't go with the airlines and my answer is always the same, "would you ask Mario Andretti why he didn't start driving for Greyhound when he retired from racing?" Ed Rasimus Same with me. Never could get offered a pilot slot, bad timing, and the thought of airline flying just does not do it for me. Looks like I might just end up flying a DC-4 on fires this summer... Ron Pilot/Wildland Firefighter |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
Well, I earned the privilege, but haven't flown as pilot in command in many years. I never had the urge to go to work for the airlines and there's nothing (short of maybe "warbird" ops) that would equate with flying tactical jets. I dunno Ed, I know a few guys who flew fighters and this is what one of them (a former A-7, F-106 and F-16 jock) had to say: Q: So Jim how does flying a trike compare to flying a fighter on the fun scale? A: Equal, but different. Way different. I like all types of flying, but they are all fun in different ways. Flying trikes is probably the most natural sensation of flying like a bird, like you dream about, of any form of powered flight I've ever experienced. Flying fighters is like flying a Formula I race car with wings, except even more physically punishing. There's nothing like being at 100' and seeing the electrical line poles go by at 600 kts +, and there's nothing like cruising along at 50 mph waving at people and smelling the new cut hay and feeling like a puppy with your head out of the car window. I'm happy to have had the opportunity to experience both. I'd rate them both as 10's, but different forms of fun. If I had to pick one to experience in life and couldn't do the other, I'd pick fighters. Fortunately, I didn't have to pick just one. People often ask, why I didn't go with the airlines and my answer is always the same, "would you ask Mario Andretti why he didn't start driving for Greyhound when he retired from racing?" I can understand that but I think there may be something else going on there. In other words, maybe guys like you whom have pushed the envelope so many times in combat sense deep down that it's simply time to quit? |
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From: Ed Rasimus
On 03 Feb 2004 15:19:24 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: I think the parsing is coming from your side. And, piloting military aircraft isn't an "entitlement." It's an earned privilege. Yeah but once you earn that privilege you are damn well going to fly whether you like it or not. (grin) Arthur Kramer Well, I earned the privilege, but haven't flown as pilot in command in many years. I never had the urge to go to work for the airlines and there's nothing (short of maybe "warbird" ops) that would equate with flying tactical jets. People often ask, why I didn't go with the airlines and my answer is always the same, "would you ask Mario Andretti why he didn't start driving for Greyhound when he retired from racing?" Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 But Ed, just think of the fun you could occassionally have had flying a tactical profile with a fully loaded 747 as a way of brightening the day. Just think of the screaming passengers as the noisemaker on your old 105. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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![]() "George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Ed Rasimus wrote: On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:04:07 -0500, "George Z. Bush" wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... Without nit picking too much, why don't we use the past tense in talking about the ratings held by the Bush family. Daddy's expired when he was demobilized at the end of WWII, and Junior's expired when he deliberately failed to update his flight physical. Just one small difference. Don't know about yours, but my wings don't expire, whether I get a physical or not. Neither does my similar, but not as highly valued FAA license. They are lifetime awards. The currency of a flight physical merely enables me to exercise the privileges. No expirations. Gee, as if I didn't know that. I didn't say that anybody's wings expired.....I was talking about the recipient's entitlement to pilot military aircraft. Your privileges expire when your physical expires.....but you already knew that, and I'm surprised that you felt so insecure as to feel obliged to parse my meaning when at least 99 of every 100 former military pilots could figure out exactly what I was talking about from the words I used. I think your statement was "'past tense when talking about the ratings held". My rating as a pilot hasn't expired, nor my FAA license. Your statement was quite clear. When you leave active duty, whether your physical is current or not, you lose the "entitlement to pilot military aircraft". I can't walk out to the flight line at Buckley, even with a current physical and strap on an F-16. I think the parsing is coming from your side. And, piloting military aircraft isn't an "entitlement." It's an earned privilege. Ed Rasimus George, that is probably the smartest thing you have managed to say in this thread...nothing. Brooks |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:04:07 -0500, "George Z. Bush" wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... Without nit picking too much, why don't we use the past tense in talking about the ratings held by the Bush family. Daddy's expired when he was demobilized at the end of WWII, and Junior's expired when he deliberately failed to update his flight physical. Just one small difference. Don't know about yours, but my wings don't expire, whether I get a physical or not. Neither does my similar, but not as highly valued FAA license. They are lifetime awards. The currency of a flight physical merely enables me to exercise the privileges. No expirations. Gee, as if I didn't know that. I didn't say that anybody's wings expired.....I was talking about the recipient's entitlement to pilot military aircraft. Your privileges expire when your physical expires.....but you already knew that, and I'm surprised that you felt so insecure as to feel obliged to parse my meaning when at least 99 of every 100 former military pilots could figure out exactly what I was talking about from the words I used. I think your statement was "'past tense when talking about the ratings held". My rating as a pilot hasn't expired, nor my FAA license. Your statement was quite clear. So, you're an Air Force pilot, is that it? Aren't you slipping an unwarranted present tense assumption in there? You're no more an Air Force pilot than I am.....that's what I used to be when I had a valid AF flight physical. Nowadays, I'm only a former Air Force pilot, and that's exactly what you are as well. When you leave active duty, whether your physical is current or not, you lose the "entitlement to pilot military aircraft". I can't walk out to the flight line at Buckley, even with a current physical and strap on an F-16. I think the parsing is coming from your side. And, piloting military aircraft isn't an "entitlement." It's an earned privilege. Like I said, 99 out of 100 former AF pilots knew what I meant from the words I used. You seem to be the only one who feels a need to redefine my meanings from my words. Maybe I'm misusing the word, but I call that "parsing" or maybe just nitpicking an easily understood meaning. George Z. PS - During a momentary brain fart, I may have reposted a message without adding any comments to it. My apologies for taking up your time looking at something you'd already seen. |
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