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Old February 3rd 04, 02:09 PM
Keith Willshaw
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and

small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.

The aircraft ordered by the Brabazon committee as a DC-3
replacement was the Airspeed Ambassador, a twin engine turboprop.

Keith


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Old February 3rd 04, 05:59 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and

small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.


The debate moved on. Duh.


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Old February 3rd 04, 11:32 PM
Peter Stickney
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and

small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.


The debate moved on. Duh.


More like you popped smoke & tried to displace.

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Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster
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Old February 4th 04, 09:07 AM
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"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Spiv" writes:

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and
small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that

in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.


The debate moved on. Duh.


More like you popped smoke & tried to displace.


No. You lost it. If you ever had it.


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Old February 3rd 04, 11:13 PM
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I don't think


That is the first valid statement I've seen you make.

the US had a Viscount equiv, selling very well in the USA.
Only the British and French had small jet commuter planes at one point and
the first executive jet was the HS 125.


No, the first Business Jet ( Lockheed JetStar ) was being prepared for
delivery to its first commercial customer (delivered late 1961) before de
Havilland announced the development of the DH 125 (later HS 125) in February
1961.


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Old February 4th 04, 04:35 AM
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Please look at an Atlas. Denmark is smaller than Scotland alone.


Not if Greenland is included.



They sold well enough and filled the niche they intended too. The British
have made planes that were better than their US equivalents: VC10 v 707,
Britannia v other US props, BAC 1-11 v DC9, etc,


How were they superior?



but never sold that well
because US companies could keep prices down because they had larger
production lines as US carriers preferred them.


The primary problem with the British transports is they were designed
specifically to meet the needs of BOAC and BEA. The American transports
were designed to appeal to a wider variety of customers.



Only the British and French had small jet commuter planes at one point and
the first executive jet was the HS 125.


The Lockheed Jetstar made it's first flight in September 1957, the North
American Sabreliner made it's first flight in September 1958, the Hawker
Siddeley 125 made it's first flight in August 1962.


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Old February 4th 04, 09:37 AM
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Please look at an Atlas. Denmark is smaller than Scotland alone.


Not if Greenland is included.


Which it isn't and isn't even in Europe.

They sold well enough and filled the niche they intended too. The

British
have made planes that were better than their US equivalents: VC10 v 707,
Britannia v other US props, BAC 1-11 v DC9, etc,


How were they superior?


Your knowledge of aircraft is lacking.


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Old February 4th 04, 10:17 AM
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"Spiv" wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Please look at an Atlas. Denmark is smaller than Scotland alone.


Not if Greenland is included.


Which it isn't and isn't even in Europe.


Yet it is considered part of Denmark.

They sold well enough and filled the niche they intended too. The

British
have made planes that were better than their US equivalents: VC10 v

707,
Britannia v other US props, BAC 1-11 v DC9, etc,


How were they superior?


Your knowledge of aircraft is lacking.


No, I believe that would be your failing.


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Old February 4th 04, 10:21 AM
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"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Please look at an Atlas. Denmark is smaller than Scotland alone.

Not if Greenland is included.


Which it isn't and isn't even in Europe.


Yet it is considered part of Denmark.


It is Not.



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Old February 4th 04, 10:48 AM
Keith Willshaw
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Not if Greenland is included.


Which it isn't and isn't even in Europe.


Yet it is considered part of Denmark.


For a little while. Parties advocating independence won
the 2002 elections by a wide margin. There's going
to be a referendum and the island is expected to
achieve full independence in 2006.


Note that while Greenland is a large geographic area
the inhabitable regions are a very small part of the
land mass and the population is less than that of
a medium sized town.

Keith


 




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