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Air America breaking news: "USA to fingerprint ALL visitors !!!"



 
 
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Old April 5th 04, 08:59 AM
Gary L. Dare
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Chad Irby wrote:

The folks from countries with government-sponsored health care,with
the government knowing the results of their last rectal exams,


Is that the case for US seniors on Medicare?

[In full retirement swing by the baby boomers, a third of the US
will be under Medicare ... 2:1 worker to retiree ratio, etc.]

gld

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Old April 6th 04, 01:50 AM
Peter Kemp
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 02:13:03 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

In article ,
Peter Kemp wrote:

Still takes too bloody long though - of the 30+ countries I've been
to, entering over half I've never had to spend more than 20 seconds at
immigration (and quite often just walk past showing the *outside* of
my UK passport), and I'll be buggered if they're getting my
fingerprints without a fight.


Really funny.

The folks from countries with government-sponsored health care, with the
government knowing the results of their last rectal exams, are worried
about fingerprints...


The US identifies terrorists by the results of their latest rectal
exams? Damn, you folks really have got a lot of data these days!

And in case you hadn't noticed, there's a difference in MY doctor
knowing my medical records and not being able to hand them to the
authorities without a court order (just like the US in fact), and a
government not my own wanting my prints in case I someday do something
naughty.

Too subtle for you?

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Old April 6th 04, 04:02 AM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
Peter Kemp wrote:

And in case you hadn't noticed, there's a difference in MY doctor
knowing my medical records and not being able to hand them to the
authorities without a court order (just like the US in fact), and a
government not my own wanting my prints in case I someday do
something naughty.

Too subtle for you?


No, just too paranoid for me.

And that's going some.

I'm still waiting for the Evil Things that you think the US could do
with your prints.

"Well, they could *keep* them! And file them! And... and... someone
could look them up some day and find out that I, er, had *fingerprints!"

....but having your passport number and address, travel dates, video
images (from all of those London video cameras), and the like is no big
deal, for some reason...

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Old April 4th 04, 08:14 AM
AJC
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:18:12 -0500, Peter Kemp
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:32:04 -0400, nobody wrote:

Peter Kemp wrote:
I'm just glad I get an exemption from the process thanks to a nice
shiny government visa, because otherwise I would *ot* come to the US


I thought it was currently the opposite: all those entering on a visa are fingerprinted.
In october, it will be all travellers whether on a real visa, or a 90 day visa waiver.


For standard tourist visas you are correct, anyone holding one goes
through the process. I've got a different type of visa as I'm in the
US on UK government business. Which is exempt from the procedures (and
also means that I tend to spend less time at immigration even than US
citizens).
Still takes too bloody long though - of the 30+ countries I've been
to, entering over half I've never had to spend more than 20 seconds at
immigration (and quite often just walk past showing the *outside* of
my UK passport), and I'll be buggered if they're getting my
fingerprints without a fight.

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That surprises me. You must have a very special visa. Even the visas
that airline crews hold have required them to be fingerprinted and
photographed each time they enter the US since January this year. Air
New Zealand crew members were telling me it routinely takes them an
hour to get through the formalities at LAX.
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Old April 5th 04, 05:00 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , AJC
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:18:12 -0500, Peter Kemp
wrote:
For standard tourist visas you are correct, anyone holding one goes
through the process. I've got a different type of visa as I'm in the
US on UK government business. Which is exempt from the procedures (and
also means that I tend to spend less time at immigration even than US
citizens).


That surprises me. You must have a very special visa.


Not that special - mine's the same.

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