General Zinni on Sixty Minutes

Once more, mea culpa mea culpa. I guess I am just not as good an
American as a guy who fialed to show up when it was required of him.

Except, of course, he did, by the records, despite the frantic efforts
of some to pretend otherwise.

Can you show us anywhere to look for confirmation of that?

Meanwhile, he's been in a job for the last three years which has a
*very* high mortality rate, after serving in a plane in the National
Guard which had a mortality rate *in training* about equal to combat
flying.

He skipped a physical that took him off flying status. He did not
satisfactorily complete his term of service, and I don't think even the RNC is
saying he did. Can you confirm?


Walt

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(WalterM140) wrote:

Once more, mea culpa mea culpa. I guess I am just not as good an
American as a guy who fialed to show up when it was required of him.

Except, of course, he did, by the records, despite the frantic efforts
of some to pretend otherwise.

Can you show us anywhere to look for confirmation of that?

The lack of criminal prosecution, for one.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Can you show us anywhere to look for confirmation of that?


Try Google.



He skipped a physical that took him off flying status.


He was then in a unit equipped with an aircraft that he wasn't qualified in.
He wasn't going to fly anyway so there was no need for the physical.



He did not
satisfactorily complete his term of service, and I don't think even the
RNC is
saying he did. Can you confirm?


Bush presented documentation and a member of that unit issued a statement
confirming Bush's service several months ago.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Jarg"
Date: 6/4/04 10:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes


Yeah you are right. I am ashamed of myself with my measly combat record
of
50
missions over Germany being no match for the no-show Bush who hid in
Texas
while the Nam war war raged. Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Is your own record the benchmark? If so the vast majority, including Al
Gore, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, etc. would not qualify.

President Bush fulfilled his duty. He is currently serving in one of the
most dangerous jobs around. Your mudslinging doesn't change that.

Jarg









Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Jarg"
Date: 6/4/04 10:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes



Once more, mea culpa mea culpa. I guess I am just not as good an American
as a
guy who fialed to show up when it was required of him. I thought you got
20
years at hard labor forthat sort of stuff. One more point. Kerry went to
war.
Bush hid in Texas.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Your willingness to apologize is a good start, now let's see if we can get
you focused on doing so for the right reasons.

Please cite a reputable source showing President Bush "hid" in Texas and
that he did not fulfil his service requirements. I can cite plenty that
detail his service and convincingly counter the lies of his politically
motivated oppoents (like yourself).

Jarg

p.s I don't think anyone is questioning your service which makes me wonder
why you are compelled to repeatedly remind us of it. I hope you don't think
it will somehow counterbalance your sloppy thinking!

Please cite a reputable source showing President Bush "hid" in Texas and
that he did not fulfil his service requirements. I can cite plenty that
detail his service and convincingly counter the lies of his politically
motivated oppoents (like yourself).

Jarg


Bush "hid" in Texas by seeking a National Guard assignment at all.

That Bush did not satisfactorily complete his required service is not in
dispute. He clearly did not.

"So, while the news networks have sat on this explosive story for months, it's
well documented that George W. Bush never showed up for National Guard duty for
a period of approximately one year, possibly more, in 1972-1973. Despite all
the talk about "honor and dignity," Bush seems to have a problem meeting his
commitments."

http://www.awolbush.com/



p.s I don't think anyone is questioning your service which makes me wonder
why you are compelled to repeatedly remind us of it. I hope you don't think
it will somehow counterbalance your sloppy thinking!

As when Art was a bombardier, he is right on target.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Bush "hid" in Texas by seeking a National Guard assignment at all.


Right. Hide in plain sight.



That Bush did not satisfactorily complete his required service is not in
dispute. He clearly did not.


The evidence shows he did.



As when Art was a bombardier, he is right on target.


There's no evidence that Art ever hit a target.

Once more, Art shows why an all-volunteer force is superior to a draft . . .

Steve Swartz



"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Jarg"
Date: 6/4/04 10:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes


Yeah you are right. I am ashamed of myself with my measly combat record
of
50
missions over Germany being no match for the no-show Bush who hid in
Texas
while the Nam war war raged. Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Is your own record the benchmark? If so the vast majority, including Al
Gore, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, etc. would not qualify.

President Bush fulfilled his duty. He is currently serving in one of the
most dangerous jobs around. Your mudslinging doesn't change that.

Jarg









Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Jarg"
Date: 6/4/04 10:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes


Yeah you are right. I am ashamed of myself with my measly combat record
of
50
missions over Germany being no match for the no-show Bush who hid in
Texas
while the Nam war war raged. Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Is your own record the benchmark? If so the vast majority, including Al
Gore, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, etc. would not qualify.

President Bush fulfilled his duty. He is currently serving in one of the
most dangerous jobs around. Your mudslinging doesn't change that.

Jarg


Once more, mea culpa mea culpa. I guess I am just not as good an American
as a
guy who fialed to show up when it was required of him. I thought you got
20
years at hard labor forthat sort of stuff. One more point. Kerry went to
war.
Bush hid in Texas.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer