OUDIE

As I've said many times before, I love my Streak/XCSoar, but I have to
second the point about the 32-pin plug. My solution to that is to mount
the Streak or Oudie or Kobo, etc. on a stalk on the panel or canopy rail
and not remove the connector from the unit. Any connector that is
repeatedly removed/reconnected will eventually fail. I've even
considered epoxying the connector to the unit but not yet... Heck, I
just got a brand new Streak for $55...

On 9/17/2016 6:53 AM, HGXC wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-4, Matt Johnston wrote:
Sorry to hijack slightly but to those of you who own an Oudie would
you recommend it? I'm looking to buy one early next year as I need a
navigation unit that I can easily transfer between gliders.
Yes I would. I have one and like it very much. Its provides me with all the info I need, allows me to customize my screen and is very durable.

I first tried the Dell streak/XC soar but the streak is very vulnerable to breaking with that crazy 32 pin plug right at your knee.

Dennis

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Dan, 5J

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 5:53:38 PM UTC-7, Sean wrote:
I just updated my 29 panel this spring from an SN10/Ilec vario linked to an Oudie to a new panel with a CN2 with the CN NAV vario (square with red buttons) and a LXNav S10 (new all in one, Nav, Task, Flarm, AHRS, IGC Oogger, etc) as a "backup." Backup is a silly description as the S10 is extremely capable as well in a 57mm package.

I have experience with the butterfly vario, V7, 302, XCSoar, of course the SN10 and several others not worth mentioning.

The CN "Nav" Vario (again, the square one with red buttons) is absolutely incredible. Simple to use, extremely accurate and seems very stable in bubbly, gusty, difficult thermals. I seem to be climbing better and more importantly, running much better. To me this means more accurate netto and speed to fly. It's the best vario I have ever used. I can't say exactly why I believe this, but I believe it. The S10 Vario is also very good, but I favor the cn vario as it integrates well with the CN2 and is very intuitive. I also had a small technical problem with the S10 (one of the very first delivered) that caused me to disregard it and favor the CN vario (which was flawless). So I don't have the same confidence in the LXNav S10 yet other than to say it is really cool and does anything and everything I could ever need. The thermal centering tool is incredible on the CN Vario (and the S10).

The Oudie is OK at best. It MUST be tied into a pressure sensor to be worth anything at all. I was sceptacle of these "full" soaring computers such as the LX9000 and CN2 before switching. But it has been an eye opener for me. Sure there was learning curve. In my case the CN2 is very easy to learn (unlike the LX9000...just ask anyone who uses one, they'll tell you). But once you do master these instrument/flight computers you will have a much more relaxed flight with quicker access to better information.

The SN10 is probably still the best overall simple navigation instrument for the money (I have one for sale, ;-)) although it also can be a challenge to learn and master. But it's ILEC vario (ILEC) leaves something to be desired in comparison to the CN Vario (or the LX).

Hopefully this has some value for someone out there.

Sean

Ok folks, I guess just a naïve question; If one were to consider buying the CN XC vario ( not with the full blown TV set), I know it will work and talk to the Oudie but than how about XCSoar or Top Hat? These two do not show a compability to CN however they do work well with the 302.
So my question is, did anyone tried the 302 connection through XCSoar ? (Something tells me that there is some relation between the 302 and CN?)

On 9/16/2016 8:34 AM, 6PK wrote:

Ok folks, I guess just a naïve question; If one were to consider buying the CN XC vario ( not with the full blown TV set), I know it will work and talk to the Oudie but than how about XCSoar or Top Hat? These two do not show a compability to CN however they do work well with the 302.
So my question is, did anyone tried the 302 connection through XCSoar ? (Something tells me that there is some relation between the 302 and CN?)

I have used XCSoar for about 5 years now and am completely happy with
it. Last year I traded my 302 for a CNvXC vario. Since the CN uses an
RJ-45 connector for its serial port I needed to buy a new cable to feed
my K6BT serial to Bluetooth converter. I got that from Cumulus
Soaring. The CNvXC worked perfectly with XCSoar once I replaced the
DB-9 to K6BT cable with the RJ-45 to K6BT cable.

You'll be very happy with the combination.
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Dan, 5J

I didn't find the Thermal Assistant helpful.
Instead I zoom to 1 mile radius and keep
an eye on the vario breadcrumb trail.

This also works nice in localised wave
with the advantage that wave tends to
stay put more than thermals when the
wind is blowing.

The Air Glide S shows instantaneous wind
really nicely. It would be great if it sent
wind to the Oudie so you could see wind
vectors on the Oudie track, but it looks like
you have to buy an Air Glide M or L (and
do major panel re-engineering to get it in).

Problems with my IPAQ and Volkslogger led to the recent upgrade of my B50-IPAQ-Winpilot-Pro system to an LXNAV S100 coupled to an inexpensive Android tablet running XCSOAR. I endorse Sean’s comments about the broad capabilities and good value of the LXNav S10/S100 vario. An additional advantage is the built-in Bluetooth which allows simple and direct transfer of the S100 vario information to the tablet. The S100-Android coupled system works beautifully and the support provided by LXNAV has been outstanding. One disadvantage of the new system is that the learning curve for using the S100 plus XCSOAR is more challenging than the well-integrated Winpilot system.. The S100 thermal centering system works very well, but I prefer the more intuitive Winpilot display, now adopted for the CN NAV vario, over the ring of colored spots used by the S100. This preference obviously reflects my prior use of Winpilot Pro for the past 16 years. I am very satisfied with my S100-XCSOAR system.

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 8:34:16 AM UTC-6, 6PK wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 5:53:38 PM UTC-7, Sean wrote:
I just updated my 29 panel this spring from an SN10/Ilec vario linked to an Oudie to a new panel with a CN2 with the CN NAV vario (square with red buttons) and a LXNav S10 (new all in one, Nav, Task, Flarm, AHRS, IGC Oogger, etc) as a "backup." Backup is a silly description as the S10 is extremely capable as well in a 57mm package.

I have experience with the butterfly vario, V7, 302, XCSoar, of course the SN10 and several others not worth mentioning.

The CN "Nav" Vario (again, the square one with red buttons) is absolutely incredible. Simple to use, extremely accurate and seems very stable in bubbly, gusty, difficult thermals. I seem to be climbing better and more importantly, running much better. To me this means more accurate netto and speed to fly. It's the best vario I have ever used. I can't say exactly why I believe this, but I believe it. The S10 Vario is also very good, but I favor the cn vario as it integrates well with the CN2 and is very intuitive. I also had a small technical problem with the S10 (one of the very first delivered) that caused me to disregard it and favor the CN vario (which was flawless). So I don't have the same confidence in the LXNav S10 yet other than to say it is really cool and does anything and everything I could ever need. The thermal centering tool is incredible on the CN Vario (and the S10).

The Oudie is OK at best. It MUST be tied into a pressure sensor to be worth anything at all. I was sceptacle of these "full" soaring computers such as the LX9000 and CN2 before switching. But it has been an eye opener for me. Sure there was learning curve. In my case the CN2 is very easy to learn (unlike the LX9000...just ask anyone who uses one, they'll tell you).. But once you do master these instrument/flight computers you will have a much more relaxed flight with quicker access to better information.

The SN10 is probably still the best overall simple navigation instrument for the money (I have one for sale, ;-)) although it also can be a challenge to learn and master. But it's ILEC vario (ILEC) leaves something to be desired in comparison to the CN Vario (or the LX).

Hopefully this has some value for someone out there.

Sean

Ok folks, I guess just a naïve question; If one were to consider buying the CN XC vario ( not with the full blown TV set), I know it will work and talk to the Oudie but than how about XCSoar or Top Hat? These two do not show a compability to CN however they do work well with the 302.
So my question is, did anyone tried the 302 connection through XCSoar ? (Something tells me that there is some relation between the 302 and CN?)

6PK,
If you are looking for just the Vario, Take a look at LXNav as well. http://www.lxnav.com/products/lxnav-varios.html
I went through the selection process a couple of years ago and I liked the CN computer (Except for the silly "Glide ameba") but the LX varios were vastly superior. Good luck.