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Why are so many Stemme S10-VT motorgliders for sale?



 
 
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Old November 15th 16, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Bring it, Sean. I'll be happy to show our next World Champion the
luxury of the Stemme!

On 11/14/2016 6:15 PM, Sean wrote:
Can't wait Dan! Thx!


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Old November 16th 16, 09:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Dan,

Prices for second-hand S10's range from 75.000 euros to over 200.000 dollars.
I'm wondering what might explain the large differences between such prices?

regards,

Roel
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Old November 16th 16, 10:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Chris Rollings[_2_]
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Mostly age and hours on the aircraft I would imagine.

At 09:56 16 November 2016, wrote:
Dan,

Prices for second-hand S10's range from 75.000 euros to over 200.000
dollars.
I'm wondering what might explain the large differences between such

prices?

regards,

Roel


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Old November 16th 16, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Well, I'm certainly not the expert (yet), but I would imagine that price
is directly proportional to service history, age, finish, equipment, and
engine/propeller hours. Though I paid at the high end of the used
market, mine, though 14 years old, had been kept in a hangar in a dry
temperate climate, had no more than 150 airframe hours, and about 50
engine hours. It still looks like a brand new ship. I've seen some
others that, though still very nice, look older but, given panel and
interior updates would fetch a much higher price. I think it would be
very xost effective to buy an older Stemme and update it with new
instruments and interior.

On 11/16/2016 2:56 AM, wrote:
Dan,

Prices for second-hand S10's range from 75.000 euros to over 200.000 dollars.
I'm wondering what might explain the large differences between such prices?

regards,

Roel


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Old November 14th 16, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

.... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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Old November 18th 16, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php
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Old November 18th 16, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:45:35 -0800, srathbunr5 wrote:

On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

According to the comments in this reference and an article in Wikipedia
he was actually towed up and glided over Everest. The tow pilot (Richard
Meredith-Hay) confirms this: "Despite some very marginal weather
conditions and some last minute technical glitches the hang glider was
towed to a point very close to the summit. The microlight pilot exchanged
waves with a group of climbers who were standing on the summit as he flew
over Everest!".

Thats an interesting and skilful flight, but it isn't "soaring Everest",
which means climbing up and above the mountain without using an engine,
as Klaus Ohlman did and is shown in the videos I referenced.

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php

Angelo was not the first man to fly over Everest as this link claims:
that was done by Lord Clydesdale and Stewart Blacker in 1933, flying a
modified Westland PV-3 and accompanied by two other pilots in a Westland
PV-5.


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Old November 18th 16, 01:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Soaring Everest. Time to get picky with definitions.
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