First TSO-C199 "TABS" device

Just to clarify ... all the people chiming in about traffic display options (LX, CNV, Oudie...) have a powerflarm ADSB/Flarm receiver, right?

I have very limited room. Adding TN72 is possible, but adding a powerflarm also would be very difficult. Maybe I could if I take out my varios.


On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
Depends on the computer. My 7" screen on the LX9070 displays traffic beautifully, really helps with situational awareness. Traffic is well displayed on many varios too i.e., Butterfly LXnav 80,8, 10,etc.

Hi Sarah,

Think about stalk mounting off panel. A cheap universal automotive cell
phone cradle works great! Cut off the base and attach it to the top or
side of your panel with two Adel clamps. Here's a picture of how I
mounted a Dell Streak in my crowded LAK-17a:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d61t34oz6x...panel.jpg?dl=0

BTW, the ClearNav does not have a built-in FLARM receiver. I mounted a
PowerFLARM portable to the top of the glare shield of my Stemme and feed
the ClearNav via serial cable. I have a friend who mounts his PF
portable AND an LX9000 (I think) on stalks in his LAK-17bfes. Maybe
he'll share a picture.

Good luck!
Dan


On 1/6/2017 9:01 AM, Sarah wrote:
Just to clarify ... all the people chiming in about traffic display options (LX, CNV, Oudie...) have a powerflarm ADSB/Flarm receiver, right?

I have very limited room. Adding TN72 is possible, but adding a powerflarm also would be very difficult. Maybe I could if I take out my varios.


On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
Depends on the computer. My 7" screen on the LX9070 displays traffic beautifully, really helps with situational awareness. Traffic is well displayed on many varios too i.e., Butterfly LXnav 80,8, 10,etc.

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Dan, 5J

On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Hi Sarah,

Think about stalk mounting off panel. A cheap universal automotive cell
phone cradle works great! Cut off the base and attach it to the top or
side of your panel with two Adel clamps. Here's a picture of how I
mounted a Dell Streak in my crowded LAK-17a:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d61t34oz6x...panel.jpg?dl=0

BTW, the ClearNav does not have a built-in FLARM receiver. I mounted a
PowerFLARM portable to the top of the glare shield of my Stemme and feed
the ClearNav via serial cable. I have a friend who mounts his PF
portable AND an LX9000 (I think) on stalks in his LAK-17bfes. Maybe
he'll share a picture.

Good luck!
Dan


On 1/6/2017 9:01 AM, Sarah wrote:
Just to clarify ... all the people chiming in about traffic display options (LX, CNV, Oudie...) have a powerflarm ADSB/Flarm receiver, right?

I have very limited room. Adding TN72 is possible, but adding a powerflarm also would be very difficult. Maybe I could if I take out my varios.


On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
Depends on the computer. My 7" screen on the LX9070 displays traffic beautifully, really helps with situational awareness. Traffic is well displayed on many varios too i.e., Butterfly LXnav 80,8, 10,etc.

--
Dan, 5J

Indeed, Dan is correct..You can see my LX9000 on a RAM mount here...

http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/lxnav...AM-Renny-1.jpg

A RAM mount also supports my PowerFlarm. You can see that photo at this link. Please note that the Oudie 2 was replaced by the LX9000 in this older photo...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8...5941fafc_o.jpg

On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 8:01:48 AM UTC-8, Sarah wrote:
Just to clarify ... all the people chiming in about traffic display options (LX, CNV, Oudie...) have a powerflarm ADSB/Flarm receiver, right?

I have very limited room. Adding TN72 is possible, but adding a powerflarm also would be very difficult. Maybe I could if I take out my varios.


On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
Depends on the computer. My 7" screen on the LX9070 displays traffic beautifully, really helps with situational awareness. Traffic is well displayed on many varios too i.e., Butterfly LXnav 80,8, 10,etc.

If your tactical computer display has good depiction of Flarm and ADSB targets, I see no reason for the dedicated Flarm display. It is simply duplicating what is already in front of you. No extra panel space is necessary, though some space behind the panel is.

On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 11:40:26 AM UTC-5, jfitch wrote:

If your tactical computer display has good depiction of Flarm and ADSB targets, I see no reason for the dedicated Flarm display. It is simply duplicating what is already in front of you. No extra panel space is necessary, though some space behind the panel is.

Sure there is. The nav computer map display is best set to show (roughly) what you can glide to. The Flarm & adsb targets you care about -- the close ones -- won't be resolvable.

2nd display solves that problem.

Evan Ludeman / T8

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 2:03:02 PM UTC-8, wrote:
It seems to me the real benefit of adsb will come when gliders can have a sunlight-readable adsb-traffic display in the panel (I find ipad and iphone displays too hard to read in sunlight). I did find a European instrument that seems promising: its the Funke TM250. It seems to be a combined GPS, adsb-in receiver and panel-mounted traffic display for transponder, flarm and adsb targets. Price is about $1200. I'm not sure if its suitable for the USA, but it shows the sort of combined flarm/adsb plus display instruments that will be coming for gliding. This uncertain future path makes me hesitant to buy a TN72.

The Craggy Aero Ultimate Le /le57 a very sunlight readable display running SeeYou PNA also displays flarm and ADS-B targets.

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimates.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com