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Old June 25th 04, 06:08 PM
WalterM140
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I've twice posted a list of more than twenty Navy officers from the
Swift boat program who discredited Kerry's record.


And I've posted his fitrep. I'll do her again:

"In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action LTJG
(Lieutenant Junior Grade) Kerry was unsurpassed. He constantly reviewed tactics
and lessons learned in river operations and applied his experience at every
opportunity. On one occasion while in tactical command of a three boat
operation his units were taken under fire from ambush. LTJG Kerry rapidly
assessed the situation and ordered his units to turn directly into the ambush.
This decision resulted in routing the attackers with several enemy KIAs.

LTJG Kerry emerges as the acknowledged leader in his peer group. His bearing
and appearance are above reproach. He has of his own volition learned the
Vietnamese language and is instrumental in the successful Vietnamese training
programs.

During this period of this report LTJG Kerry has been awarded the Silver Star
medal, the Bronze Star medal, the Purple Heart medal (2nd and 3rd awards).

18 Dec 1969"

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

Maybe those guys were just jealous.


And besides, no matter what those swift boat officers say, Bush has NO right to
say squat because he didn't serve.

Walt
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Old June 25th 04, 06:09 PM
WalterM140
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We have repeatedly demonstrated to you in this forum evidence that
Bush had five years and three months of six year commitment.


What I know is that there is a 16 month break in his service, and that's a
no-no.

Walt
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Old June 25th 04, 06:11 PM
WalterM140
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Of which you "have no source" but "believe a Navy Corpsman" is the
source? That's your support of "He and his surrogates"? Your case
seems a bit unsupported.


Discount it if you like. I remember that they had someone comd forward who
said Kerry's 3rd wound was just a scratch.
Seems like he was a corpsman. If you discount that, it doesn't bother me.

Walt
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Old June 26th 04, 12:07 AM
Pete
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"WalterM140" wrote

I don't have a source, but the Bushies got someone, I believe a Navy

corpsman,
to come forward and say that Kerry's third wound was just a scratch.


You mean this guy?
"I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay. "
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

Pete


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Old June 26th 04, 12:36 AM
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Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: "Pete"
Date: 6/25/2004 4:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"WalterM140" wrote

I don't have a source, but the Bushies got someone, I believe a Navy

corpsman,
to come forward and say that Kerry's third wound was just a scratch.


You mean this guy?
"I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay. "
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

Pete



That's from the National Review. The sleaziest of the neocon right wing rags.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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Old June 26th 04, 01:09 PM
George Z. Bush
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"Pete" wrote in message
...

"WalterM140" wrote

I don't have a source, but the Bushies got someone, I believe a Navy

corpsman,
to come forward and say that Kerry's third wound was just a scratch.


You mean this guy?
"I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay. "
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp


When I read so much detail about so unimpressive a medical event that occurred
to a relatively unknown junior officer over 35 years ago, I can't help but
conclude that there's a lot of embellishing going on. Most of the human race
couldn't recall what they were doing on that particular day 35+ years ago, but
this bird can? Hell, did anybody think to ask him what procedure he performed
on a particular wounded veteran in his care ten or sixteen days later? Of
course not, because they know damned well that he'd draw a blank without someone
to fill in details that he'd forgotten years ago.

If it sounds like BS, looks like BS, and smells like BS, chances are pretty good
that it's not much more than a pile of BS.

George Z.



Pete




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Old June 25th 04, 10:58 AM
WalterM140
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Please come up with logical arguments if you can.

It's all just personal attacks, isn't it?

The record sure won't support you.

There's a 16 month break in Bush's service from 5/26/72 to 10/01/73:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc10.gif

Kerry is a bona fide hero. Bush is and was a shirker. I cal him a shirker now
because he has refused (or perhaps he's incapable) to admit a single mistake.

Walt
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Old June 25th 04, 03:02 PM
ArtKramr
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Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: (WalterM140)
Date: 6/25/2004 2:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Please come up with logical arguments if you can.


It's all just personal attacks, isn't it?

The record sure won't support you.

There's a 16 month break in Bush's service from 5/26/72 to 10/01/73:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc10.gif

Kerry is a bona fide hero. Bush is and was a shirker. I cal him a shirker
now
because he has refused (or perhaps he's incapable) to admit a single mistake.

Walt



Yeah Bush said that God told him to do it.The insane have taken over the
asylum,


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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Old June 25th 04, 02:02 AM
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"WalterM140" wrote in message
...
I've got an SSM and five DFC's, but no PH.


George Bush has neither SSM, DFC or PH.

In fact, his chronolgical record of service has a 16 month gap.

-He- has no right to denigrate the service of a highly decorated WIA

veteran
like Senator Kerry, or to have his surrogates do it.


Is he still "highly decorated" if he threw his awards away?

Pete


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Old June 25th 04, 10:36 AM
WalterM140
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Is he still "highly decorated" if he threw his awards away?


Yes, and still wounded three times.

What it shows when people condemn Kerry and support Bush s that they:

Have an agenda

Or:

Don't understad what's going on.

Bush has a 16 month break reflected in his chronilogical record of service.

Kerry has a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three purple hearts.

When people attack Kerry on his integrity, backbone, spine, whatever you want
to call it -- think about Bush's record.

Walt
 




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