Could the Press Grow a Spine?

"WalterM140" wrote:
Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.


Ed mentioned Orwell. It's orwellian to belittle the hero and laud the
shirker.

Walt

Do you and Art see the same reflection when you shave in the morning?

From: (WalterM140)
Date: 6/25/2004 1:26 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.


Ed mentioned Orwell. It's orwellian to belittle the hero and laud the
shirker.

Walt


Walt, pay attention, Ed did NOT belittle Kerry. He simply pointed out that you
keep repeated things about Bush's service record that he has refuted.

Putting words in his mouth only makes your arguments more foolish than they
already are.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Walt, pay attention, Ed did NOT belittle Kerry. He simply pointed out that
you
keep repeated things about Bush's service record that he has refuted.

No one can refute the chronilogical record of service of Bush's that is now
part of the public record.

I was in the reserves myself. I know how this works. Every member has a
chronilogical record of service. It's a "standard" page in the SRB/OCR or
whatever the equivilent is in the Army/Air Force.

Donald Segretti, Nixon's agent of "Dirty Tricks" (for which he served time in
prison) cannot refute it. His assistant, Karl Rove (and current White House
communications director) cannot refute it. No one can come forward -now- and
say they saw Bush then-- when the record from -then- dictates that he DID NOT
accrue any points for service as required by law.

Strictly speaking, Bush is a deserter -- that case could be made legally. And
there is no statute of limitations on desertion.

Walt

From: (WalterM140)


I was in the reserves myself. I know how this works. Every member has a
chronilogical record of service.

Aha! You dodged the draft by going into the reserves just as many have accused
Bush of doing by going into the guard.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Aha! You dodged the draft by going into the reserves just as many have
accused
Bush of doing by going into the guard.


Actually, I joined the Marine Corps the day I turned 18.

This is a link to a picture of me taken in 1983:

http://members.aol.com/walterm140/oki83.jpg

I was on Desert Storm also.

Walt

WalterM140 wrote:
Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.



Ed mentioned Orwell. It's orwellian to belittle the hero and laud the shirker.

Walt

The Republicans and their junior college instructor lackey's have a long
history of belittling those who served well while exaggerating the
military records of their, more prudent, candidates.

Can anyone remember the 1972 election? During WWII Richard Nixon ran a
Navy fruit drink stand at some South Pacific backwater supply base while
George McGovern was leading groups of B24s in daylight attacks on Nazi
Europe. AFter the war McGovern used the GI Bill to get a Ph.D., while
Nixon used slush funds to finance red baiting.

By election time in 1972 the Republican propaganda machine convinced the
weak minded and ignorant that Nixon was the warrior and McGovern the dodger.

They're trying to pull the same trick in 2004.

Cheers

--mike

"Mike Dargan" wrote in message
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The Republicans and their junior college instructor lackey's have a long
history of belittling those who served well while exaggerating the
military records of their, more prudent, candidates.

Can anyone remember the 1972 election? During WWII Richard Nixon ran a
Navy fruit drink stand at some South Pacific backwater supply base while
George McGovern was leading groups of B24s in daylight attacks on Nazi
Europe. AFter the war McGovern used the GI Bill to get a Ph.D., while
Nixon used slush funds to finance red baiting.

By election time in 1972 the Republican propaganda machine convinced the
weak minded and ignorant that Nixon was the warrior and McGovern the
dodger.

They're trying to pull the same trick in 2004.


I can remember the 1972 election, but I sure don't remember what you
described. I think you fabricated it.

I can remember the 1972 election, but I sure don't remember what you
described. I think you fabricated it.



A Republican operative named Donald Segretti served jail time for his
activities in disrupting Democratic Party activities.

You can look it up.

Or perhaps you have heard of Nixon's "Plumbers", or maybe you are familiar with
a little contretemps known as Watergate.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
...

A Republican operative named Donald Segretti served jail time for his
activities in disrupting Democratic Party activities.

You can look it up.

Or perhaps you have heard of Nixon's "Plumbers", or maybe you are
familiar with a little contretemps known as Watergate.


I'm familiar with those things, but I'm not familiar with any attempt by
Republicans to portray Nixon as a warrior and McGovern as a draft dodger. I
don't believe it happened. I believe Mike Dargan fabricated it just like
you fabricated your assertions about Bush.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mike Dargan" wrote in message
news:qd0Dc.117009$0y.58857@attbi_s03...

The Republicans and their junior college instructor lackey's have a long
history of belittling those who served well while exaggerating the
military records of their, more prudent, candidates.

Can anyone remember the 1972 election? During WWII Richard Nixon ran a
Navy fruit drink stand at some South Pacific backwater supply base while
George McGovern was leading groups of B24s in daylight attacks on Nazi
Europe. AFter the war McGovern used the GI Bill to get a Ph.D., while
Nixon used slush funds to finance red baiting.

By election time in 1972 the Republican propaganda machine convinced the
weak minded and ignorant that Nixon was the warrior and McGovern the

dodger.

They're trying to pull the same trick in 2004.



I can remember the 1972 election, but I sure don't remember what you
described. I think you fabricated it.

Well Steve, if you don't think very well, try to not think very much:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3...scheer20021029

Cheers,

--mike