New Glider Dream Elon Musk Flow

On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:18:49 PM UTC-8, Daniel Sazhin wrote:
On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:13:25 PM UTC-5, WB wrote:

I would love automatic flaps in a new bird. I would alos like different manufacturing to allow for lighter empty weight, helps if you fly a sustainer.




What was the deal with the automatic flaps on the Duckhawk? Was that ever made to work at all?

Yep, they definitely work!

All the best,
Daniel

Active boundary layer control, warping (non-hinged) control surfaces, auto-flaps.

Craig

Iscold, before designing Nixus, installed an autoflap system in my ASH30. It works very well, according to lift coeficient.
There is a video clip at Facebook Nixus page

Sergio

On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:13:25 PM UTC-5, WB wrote:

I would love automatic flaps in a new bird. I would alos like different manufacturing to allow for lighter empty weight, helps if you fly a sustainer.




What was the deal with the automatic flaps on the Duckhawk? Was that ever made to work at all?

Pls. no automatic flaps yet !
If we agree : older flappers being not to today's standards( flaps not very effective);
All new to flaps pilots want automatic flaps.I was one of them. But...
Flaps have to be set before I enter specific airmass(rising, still or falling).
Same like my speed to fly has to be set before I enter specific air mass.
Chasing is counter productive.I do not try to follow my Speed To Fly computer. I have to predict and set.Then I could tap myself on the shoulder watching my STF computer if 10 sec ago I was wright.What ever it says , its history, and I should not try to change it.So its useless.
So I bet and try to cash in.
If I loose, I learn for next change and adjust my predictions.
I loose very little if I go in bit too fast conig.
I never predict perfect and every , even slow conig change costs me energy loss.
So usual winners like KS , bet on sinking airmasses and plows constant high speed 75-85 in Duo( even if there was little lift in between) to predicted good air mass under far away Cu or blue gaggle.
I can get same fast and little higher by betting on little lift in between clouds, wisps, blue thermalers and have correct speed and flaps ready ahead..
In cruising : more config changes = more loses, so if I'm not sure, I'm better off using plowing little too fast config.East coast 92kts in Arcus,

If I win the bet with myself, I do same predictions in next airmass.
With speed to fly and flaps setting , I have to be always ahead with predictions.
So "fly by wire" like Nixus : YES, "automatic flaps" : NOT YET,only for newbies, till we have a system predicting airmass at least 0.3 mile ahead like LIDAR.
Ryszard

I drive a car with a manual gearbox - and would never trade it for an automatic gearbox car. The same with my glider flaps....

All gliders should be made of wood.

On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 7:49:28 PM UTC-8, RW wrote:
If we agree...

We do not.

--Bob K.

W dniu piątek, 9 lutego 2018 19:31:46 UTC+1 użytkownik Jonathan St. Cloud napisał:
Was so tried of the hard deck discussion thought I would try a discussion of dreams. After seeing the vision of Elon Musk with his Falcon Heavy, I had to pinch myself. Those two boosters landing in sync..

What are some of the innovative, new technology, original thought, scifi dreams, would you like to see in a brand new glider design? Let your inter Elon Musk flow.

We have seen the New Ventus, the JS-3 (very innovative), Dianna 3. So far the South Africans have shown the most original thought.

If you were to design a glider what are your dreams?

18/21 or 15/18 meters

Sustainer, jet, electric, two stroke?

Light weight: I would love to be able to get to 7.5 pounds with a 220 lb pilot+chute and up to 12ish pounds wet. This might take new manufacturing methods and materials. Perhaps pre-preg, vacuum bagging...?

Pedestal mounted wing?

VTOL glider

On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 6:10:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:
W dniu piątek, 9 lutego 2018 19:31:46 UTC+1 użytkownik Jonathan St. Cloud napisał:
Was so tried of the hard deck discussion thought I would try a discussion of dreams. After seeing the vision of Elon Musk with his Falcon Heavy, I had to pinch myself. Those two boosters landing in sync..

What are some of the innovative, new technology, original thought, scifi dreams, would you like to see in a brand new glider design? Let your inter Elon Musk flow.

We have seen the New Ventus, the JS-3 (very innovative), Dianna 3. So far the South Africans have shown the most original thought.

If you were to design a glider what are your dreams?

18/21 or 15/18 meters

Sustainer, jet, electric, two stroke?

Light weight: I would love to be able to get to 7.5 pounds with a 220 lb pilot+chute and up to 12ish pounds wet. This might take new manufacturing methods and materials. Perhaps pre-preg, vacuum bagging...?

Pedestal mounted wing?

VTOL glider

I would love to see how the air is actually flowing around me.

Be it within a wingspan, or a thermal miles away.

All the best,
Daniel

I would like the canopy to be a HUD. Traffic marked by green yellow or red triangles depending on range and threat level. Vario, Air Mass (blue dot for Butterfly users), airspeed altitude, task info.

Oh and tappered wing pins

First idea:
on-board super high powered de-humidifier. you could dump your ballast just before a climb, and then have the dehumidifier pull water out of the air and replenish water ballast for the next cruise during the climb.

or maybe that's too insanely fast to condense 30 gallons of water out of thin air.

I worked on an experimental "Water From Air" project a few years ago designed for arid climates (think Afghanistan.) The Mil-Spec called for something that could produce 500 gallons of potable water in 24 hours on 100 gallons of diesel (or jet fuel, JP4, Jet-A etc.) Other specs defined the climate as around 90 degrees F and less than 20% relative humidity.

The machine met the specs, and worked pretty well. It was also eight feet high, 16 feet long and eight feet wide. Weighed around 10,000 lbs. if I remember correctly. Ran on a CAT Diesel generator and made enough noise to wake the dead.
It was designed to fit through a C-130 rear cargo hatch and ramp. It did, with an inch or so of clearance.

So, that's 50 gallons in 2.4 hours on 10 gallons of fuel. Want to buy it? I can probably get you a deal, if the Army hasn't destroyed it yet.