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  #91  
Old November 21st 06, 05:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I don't think (but I have no actual knowledge - haven't even checked the
NTSB site) that Jr used this. From what I recall, his family reported the
plane was overdue.

Squawking didn't trigger S&R, but it helped locate the wreckage.

2.
If contact is lost for more than 15 minutes, Search
and Rescue will be alerted.



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Old November 21st 06, 06:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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BT writes:

AIM 5-1-4 g. With Examples


Found it, thank you. The examples aren't very highly codified;
perhaps there is no rigid format.

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Old November 21st 06, 06:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You are right there are many real pilots that use sim and that inhabit the
flight sim newsgroups. Why don't you head back over there and leave us
alone?


Why do you waste so much time on personal attacks if you dislike me?
Why not just killfile me and be done with it? I'm refractory to
personal attacks, so they will never have any effect on me.

I'm puzzled by people who claim to hate me and yet waste hundreds or
thousands of posts on tirades against me. What's the _real_
motivation for this?

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Old November 21st 06, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Viperdoc writes:

He wouldn't last 30seconds in a conversation or disagreement with
real pilots.


I've lasted much longer here; am I not communicating with real pilots,
then?

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Old November 21st 06, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Steve Foley writes:

I don't think (but I have no actual knowledge - haven't even checked the
NTSB site) that Jr used this. From what I recall, his family reported the
plane was overdue.


JFK Jr. did not file a flight plan on his final flight. His last
communication with ATC was at the time of his take-off from Essex
County Airport. There was no contact with FSS. No weather briefings
were requested by the accident pilot.

A radar target squawking VFR and matching the circumstances of the
accident aircraft was observed at 2049:59 on the night of the
accident. It made many erratic movements. A TCAS warning in a
commercial airliner also correlates with the circumstances of the
accident flight.

The full narrative is available at

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief2.asp?...MA178& akey=1

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Old November 21st 06, 07:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Robet Coffey writes:

Sometimes when flying near untowered airports I will report my position
relative to the airfield on the CTAF. If by some chance (rare) I am near
the pattern altitude when passing by I think it a good idea to advise
inbound & traffic in the pattern.


That is my belief as well. I think it's not really possible to
provide too much information to other pilots, so unless the frequency
is bursting with traffic (highly unlikely), the more information one
provides, the better, for both S&R and for other pilots who may be
nearby with no other way of knowing that you're in the area.

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Old November 21st 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You are right there are many real pilots that use sim and that inhabit
the
flight sim newsgroups. Why don't you head back over there and leave us
alone?


Why do you waste so much time on personal attacks if you dislike me?
Why not just killfile me and be done with it? I'm refractory to
personal attacks, so they will never have any effect on me.

I'm puzzled by people who claim to hate me and yet waste hundreds or
thousands of posts on tirades against me. What's the _real_
motivation for this?


I don't hate you. I don't even know you. I can't kill file all the responses
to your posts. If you would just stop arguing with everybody that answers
your questions I wouldn't have a problem. If you don't like or believe an
answer let those that do know something about the subject respond and trust
me they will if it is even a little wrong.

The way this and any forum like it should work is person A who doesn't have
information asks a question and then persons B, who knows the answer,
responds. A can then ask a follow-up question if needed. If person B was
wrong then C, D and E will chime in and get to the correct answer.

But when you ask a question then turn around and argue with damn near
everybody that answers you blow the signal to noise ratio all to hell. And
don't get me wrong. You have asked some good questions it is the way your
respond that ****es me and many others off.

Finally, there is a reason that there are thousands of newsgroups. Each
newsgroup is for a particular subject and continually remind us that you
have no interest in aviation just in flight sims.


  #98  
Old November 21st 06, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Stewart
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Mxsmanic,


I like to keep safety on my side.



Well, you're sitting in a room. That should do it, no reporting
necessary.


I believe he should report his position to his
parents on an hourly basis.
  #99  
Old November 21st 06, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Neil Gould
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Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Robet Coffey writes:

Sometimes when flying near untowered airports I will report my
position relative to the airfield on the CTAF. If by some chance
(rare) I am near the pattern altitude when passing by I think it
a good idea to advise inbound & traffic in the pattern.


That is my belief as well. I think it's not really possible to
provide too much information to other pilots, so unless the frequency
is bursting with traffic (highly unlikely), the more information one
provides, the better, for both S&R and for other pilots who may be
nearby with no other way of knowing that you're in the area.

I'm sure that your toy comm frequenciess aren't "bursting with traffic",
but it is not at all unusual for it to be hard to get a word in edgewise
in the vicinity of an airport. If it isn't critical, I keep off the air.

Neil



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Old November 21st 06, 07:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

But when you ask a question then turn around and argue with damn near
everybody that answers you blow the signal to noise ratio all to hell.


I provide signal, not noise. I have no control over what others
provide.

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