DUI's and flying?

"Part86" wrote in message
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Are you a lawyer? My lawyer said it's illegal.

But he didn't get you an acquittal. I'd say he was probably wrong.

That's the one thing I'm talking about. It shows that the officer had an
agenda.

The officer had *better* have an agenda. That's the whole point of his job.
His agenda is to arrest people who drink too much and then get behind the
wheel of a car.

My friend just got pulled over on the way home from a bar because he
had no front plate. The cop had him do a field sobriety test. You think
the
plate was the real reason?

Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. Your friend was in violation of at least
two laws, one that the officer could easily perceive before the arrest, and
possibly two.

Why do YOU think your friend got pulled over?

I don't know if you are just nieve or have too much
faith in the integrity of all police officers.

The word is "naive". As for "all police officers", what's that got to do
with anything? The only thing at question here are the police officers
waiting outside of bars, for drunks to get into their cars.

Just how much integrity does a person have if they get behind the wheel
drunk? Less than a police officer waiting outside a bar, that's for sure.

Pete

"Part86" wrote in message
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Another thing to point out is that after you have one dui there is
absolutely NO tolerance as far as blood alcohol level goes. You can't
have ANY alcohol in your blood not .001 or its another dui.

That's one I've never heard. What state?


California, and believe me it's true. The second dui here requires an 18 month
dui program and I know everything there is to know at this point.

I don't see any such provision in the California statutes - could you cite
a section of the Vehicle Code or other official document? At least one of
your DUIs came when you were under 21 and current CA law specifies a BAC of
..01% for minors (VC 23136) as compared to the .08% level for adults, but
that's independent of any prior DUI convictions. The penalties go up for
repeat offenders (VC 23560) but I have never heard of any zero tolerance
policy specifically for those with a previous conviction.

("Peter" wrote)
You *never* drink? Not even wine with a meal? Or, perhaps, a little
peppermint Schnapps in your hot cocoa on a cold winter's night?

Why ruin a perfectly good cup of cocoa? Or for that matter, why let good
grape juice spoil? It made sense in the days before refrigeration was
available, but is hardly necessary anymore.


I'm with Peter on this one - if you change it to never drink coffee.

Never-never ever-ever touch the stuff. I like all the things they put into
coffee - just leave out the coffee please. I might have sipped 4oz, or
maybe even 6oz, of the sludge in the past 30 years - total.

--
Montblack
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:01:39 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I dunno. I've just never been particularly persecuted for not
drinking. Got teased a bit by collegues that were, but nothing not
good-natured.

You *never* drink?

Not alcohol. In fact, when eating out, I usually order water.
Restaurants tend to overcharge for soft drinks and fruit juice. I like
cranberry juice at home; the flavor is good and it's said to be a
natural diuretic.

Not even wine with a meal? Or, perhaps, a little
peppermint Schnapps in your hot cocoa on a cold winter's night?

Never tried wine, or Schnapps. For that matter, I've never tried
coffee, or black tea. Or tobacco.

Just curious, but why not?

I grew up avoiding them, in connection with my religious faith. I also
chose a circle of friends as a teen who avoided all that stuff. Then I
went to a college where all the students agree not to imbibe. It's how
I survived the teenage years without becoming addicted to something.

Today I believe I avoid a world of trouble that way. No addictions to
any social substance are possible, if you never try them. Like you,
alcoholism exists in my family, and I'm far too compulsive in too many
harmless ways, (and one not so harmless in the long run,) to expect it
could never happen to me.

Rob

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:42:26 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote:

I'm with Peter on this one - if you change it to never drink coffee.

Never-never ever-ever touch the stuff. I like all the things they put into
coffee - just leave out the coffee please.

Tell me about it. Starbucks can make a delightful drink called a
"steamer", which is no more than hot milk with one or two of their
flavorings.

'Course, at $2 or $3 each, I'll just pour myself a glass of milk and
nuke it in the microwave, thankyewverymuch.

Rob

On 01 Dec 2003 05:11:02 GMT, (Part86) wrote:

I agree, but I posted that I have never been in a small aircraft or flown a
plane so I meant that I need to at least be up in the air before I can make
that determination.

Then, by all means, budget yourself about 10 hours of training and see
if you dig it. By the fourth hour or so, if you're not very
enthusiastic about flying then a career in flying might not be for
you. And you'll know before you've spent your 500th dollar.

If you can, try and find a stick-and-rudder tailwheel type aircraft
for something really visceral. It might cost a little more (or might
not, depending on the aircraft you find), but I know I don't regret
having flown in a Piper Cub for basic presolo flight training.

Rob

You *never* drink?

Not alcohol. In fact, when eating out, I usually order water.
Restaurants tend to overcharge for soft drinks and fruit juice.

Me, too, actually. I drink filtered ice water with every meal. (Hey --
let's start arguing about how selling bottled water is like printing money!
:-)

Not even wine with a meal? Or, perhaps, a little
peppermint Schnapps in your hot cocoa on a cold winter's night?

Never tried wine, or Schnapps. For that matter, I've never tried
coffee, or black tea. Or tobacco.

My goodness -- a sheltered life you have lived! I no longer partake in
tobacco -- haven't touched any for 17 years now -- for the obvious health
reasons. But if they ever invented a proven "safe" version, I would love to
have a good smoke again.

And Schnapps just goes SO well with hot cocoa in front of a blazing hot
fire, on a cold winter's night...

I've always figured that the old saying was "All things in moderation",
Rob -- not just "some things"...
;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Mike

Tried to stay out of this cat fight but Just had to follow up your
'straight' line.

"Only inTexas" G (Home of the Long Necks)

Big John


On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:16:53 GMT, "mike regish"
wrote:

You don't have to do a damned thing. People who go to bars to drink tea
belong in teahouses. Don't know where you're from, but if you asked for tea
in an American bar, you'd probably get beat up.

mike regish

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:35:15 GMT, mike regish wrote:

In a bar?

yes.
what's the problem of drinking a good cup of tea or coffee [1]. Or a coke.

Sure a lot of people drink like that in a restaurant. They're just

not only there.

drinking-and socializing-in bars. Maybe some beer nuts and pretzels, but
that's about it. And for the most part, they're staying significantly
longer
than diners do.

I know. And I have to drink beer only because I sit in the same place for
5
hours?

#m

[1] well, therefore you need _good_ tea and coffee ...
--
http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php
http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml

Part86 wrote:

That's the one thing I'm talking about. It shows that the officer had an
agenda. My friend just got pulled over on the way home from a bar because he
had no front plate. The cop had him do a field sobriety test. You think the
plate was the real reason?

It probably was the reason for pulling him over. His behaviour after being
pulled over or the smell of alcohol on his breath then became a good reason
for a sobriety test. Beer is one of the most odiferous things you could drink.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:01:40 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

You *never* drink?

Not alcohol. In fact, when eating out, I usually order water.
Restaurants tend to overcharge for soft drinks and fruit juice.

Me, too, actually. I drink filtered ice water with every meal. (Hey --
let's start arguing about how selling bottled water is like printing money!
:-)

Hardly an argument there. I think when you buy it you're buying the
bottle, not the water. If only I had a mountain spring of my own, I
could afford that Cherokee Six!

My goodness -- a sheltered life you have lived!

Not since 1989. Interestingly, when I was living in Switzerland I did
a lot of travel by train, and developed a significant tolerance to
second-hand smoke while there, since you can actually get seats in the
smoking car during rush hour.

These days, the smoke makes my head spin if the guy at the traffic
light two cars up is smoking and taps his ashes out the window. It's
powerful-smellin' stuff.

I've always figured that the old saying was "All things in moderation",
Rob -- not just "some things"...

Well, Jay, look at it this way: I succumb to my general compulsions in
moderation, by limiting them to video games, crime-scene television
shows, and Usenet participance. And flying! :-D

(And, this kind of good-natured ribbing is exactly what I meant by the
non-persecuting sort of teasing I've gotten my entire life.)

Rob