It was really close...

You can't drive a truck from the edge of the ADIZ to the Capitol in a few minutes.

You don't need to. Drive at any speed you want, you'll get to the
target. That's all that counts.

Jose
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Gatt,

Well, you see, a long time ago, on September 11, 2001, some nice people
thought it might be fun to fly an airplane into the Pentagon.

And that has WHAT connection exactly to prohibiting GA traffic over
Washington?


I wonder if there's a correlation between tightened security

And prohibiting GA traffic tightens security in WHICH way, exactly?

I'm really looking forward to explanations.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Gatt,

to let pilots
run amok over Washington DC.


They "ran amok"? As far as I know, they just flew. Man, all of us are
running amok all over the world regularly by your definition. It's my
favorite pastime, this "running amok". Jeeze!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

John Gaquin wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message


Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

As a wayward Cessna


What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate action
taken against these two nimrods.
Huh? Where did you get that? The FAA is planning on revoking the
certificate of the PIC. The student had no legal standing during
the flight (and evidentally was the only reason they managed not
to get shot out of the air).

Sport Pilot wrote:
The plane was already 15 miles in a 30 mile zone when the F 16 took off
and was only 3 miles out when intercepted. If this was a terrorist
piloted airliner from Reagan National, takeing a northbound left turn
instead of right. The WH or capitol would be toast.

Yes, but the TSA/HSA/SS believe that they have put adequate security
precautions in for htat. National departing passengers are subject
to additional screening, and the pilots are specially trained to
get the hell away from DC if anything (passengers standing up,
etc...) occurs. We've had a bunch of diversions to IAD of
DCA flights since 9-11.

The GA flights in the FRZ reqiure that the pilots get special security
checks and there are special procedures. When security level goes to
orange, this also incoming flights first to an outlying airport to
check the passengers and "cargo". Similar restrictions on depatures
are in effect.

Ron Natalie wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message


Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

As a wayward Cessna



What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate
action taken against these two nimrods.

Huh? Where did you get that? The FAA is planning on revoking the
certificate of the PIC. The student had no legal standing during
the flight (and evidentally was the only reason they managed not
to get shot out of the air).

Yes, I heard that he's losing his certificate after 35 years of flying.
That is a shame, but probably justified in this case. The article
said he got lost, but even so, how hard would it be to know that you
need to fly west, not east when in that area?


Matt

On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:19:37 -0700, gatt wrote:

Yes, but hopefully not with an pompous attitude towards others also
trying to exit the building.

You are absolutely correct. You'd think the heroes who are sending people
like my brother off to fight in Iraq would have slowed down to HELP the
tourists out of harm's way. Not complain that they got in the way.

if those wackos (politicans) feel that they are so important and need
protection: bring them down in a submarine or something. They shouldn't be
allowed to interrupt everyday life (they already interrupt life with their
decisions).
this thread is part of the job description. if you can't stand it don't
take this job.

#m
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:04:44 -0700, gatt wrote:

Why is this as it should be?

There's a war going on.


*hihi*

Precisely why there's no particular reason to let
illegal immigrants run amok into America.


illegal immigrants are not really welcome. nowehere.

Some of them are hostile.


yes, but this applies to all groups. _some_ Americans are hostile, _some_
Iraquis are hostil, ... you get the picture.

And what particular reason is there at this point to let pilots run amok
over Chicago? Or anywhere else?

The most powerful government in the world

yes, really sad that we let this happen.

--and the one that Americans
consider most important--is not in Chicago.


every nation sees his government as the most important one. but the
politicans are only human beeings. you make little gods out of your
presidents. I never understood that.

-c

#m
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote:

Peter, there's a war going on.


yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc.
etc. yaddayadda.

Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.

but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be
a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you
can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight
terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you?

-c

#m, opening Pandoras box. :-)

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Martin Hotze wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote:


Peter, there's a war going on.



yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc.
etc. yaddayadda.


Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on
airplanes either.


but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be
a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you
can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight
terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you?

Sure, but someday you may have to defend yourself against your
government and hence the second amendment. The writers of the
constitution were well aware of this potential and thus they planned for it.


Matt