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Southwest Airlines discontinued service to Detroit City Airport in 1993.

One lesson I think we can all learn from this accident is to strongly
consider NOT landing with a tailwind. I know that the prevailing runway
is used, winds shift and Tower doesn't want to turn everyone around
untill they are sure that the wind is stabilized. But....landing with
the wind means higher landing speeds and all the hazards associated
with that (not just length of runout, there are other issues). It takes
guts to decline the prevailing runway, and there is a LOT of pressure
to land like everyone else is.....it's your lives of
passengers/equipment/career depending on your decision. It is decisions
like these why airline captains get paid the salaried they get paid.
Not an easy choice, but look what happens when one makes the wrong
choice.

I heard, but only once, that the reason the runway in use wasn't changed was
the possibility of conflicts with O'Hare traffic...


"Doug" wrote in message
oups.com...
One lesson I think we can all learn from this accident is to strongly
consider NOT landing with a tailwind. I know that the prevailing runway
is used, winds shift and Tower doesn't want to turn everyone around
untill they are sure that the wind is stabilized. But....landing with
the wind means higher landing speeds and all the hazards associated
with that (not just length of runout, there are other issues). It takes
guts to decline the prevailing runway, and there is a LOT of pressure
to land like everyone else is.....it's your lives of
passengers/equipment/career depending on your decision. It is decisions
like these why airline captains get paid the salaried they get paid.
Not an easy choice, but look what happens when one makes the wrong
choice.

lynn wrote:
Southwest Airlines discontinued service to Detroit City Airport in 1993.

Yes, I found that info after your earlier post.

Several airlines have tried, and soon dropped, service at DET in the
last three decades. Was there a relationship to the recent MDW accident
that you intended to suggest?


Jack

In article , Lakeview
Bill wrote:

I heard, but only once, that the reason the runway in use wasn't changed was
the possibility of conflicts with O'Hare traffic...

The opposite ILS also has a higher RVR minimum (5000), making it
unusable anyway, headwind or not.

"Bob Moore" wrote in message The rest of the story..........
AUTOSPEEDBRAKES

Many thanks. I'm on a trip right now, but even I was in my office, our 727
manuals sucked pretty bad. On my oral exam with the Feds, I mentioned that
the CSDs on some of our ******* fleet were cooled by fan air instead of
ejectors. He asked me to find it in our manuals and of course it wasn't in
there.

D.

News this morning said the plane landed too far down the runway, would have needed another 800' if it didn't go off the
end...

"Capt.Doug" wrote in message news:CXsof.293843

"John Gaquin" wrote in message IIRC, on the 727, nose gear compression
is
also required
for autospoiler deployment.

On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main strut.

You're absolutely right. My apologies. Your response prompted the
aforementioned reference trip to the basement, where I was re-reminded that
it is the autobrakes that require the nose gear to be on the ground (in
certain models). Mea Culpa.

Nope!

Marc CYBW wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121001562.html


SWA and ATA had FAA waivers concerning minimum visibilities:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4692055.story

The pilots of Southwest Airlines Flight 1248 were permitted to attempt
a landing in extremely bad weather at Midway Airport because the
low-cost carrier holds a special FAA waiver to operate below regular
minimum-visibility safety regulations, federal officials said
Wednesday.
....
Among the 10 airlines serving Midway, Southwest and ATA Airlines have
been granted waivers from the Federal Aviation Administration allowing
planes to land when visibility is below three-fourths of a mile--the
established standard on Runway 31 Center, where the Southwest accident
occurred.

Pilots must be specially trained and log a required number of landings
with a certified pilot before receiving their own certification
allowing them to land at Midway with only one-half mile visibility,
called a "31Z approach."