Nuther SR-22 crash/incident?

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Well, no offense, but that isn't an American way of looking at it. That
is a liberals way of looking at it. To a liberal, everything that goes
wrong is someone else's fault.

Wow. Of all the idiotic things I've seen, this ranks right up there. I
knew no thread in r.a.piloting is safe from politicization, but the leap you
took right there...that takes the cake.

How in the world did this become "liberal vs conservative" thing? It's bad
enough Thomas seems to think we're talking about lawsuits here, but now you
jump in with your obvious anti-liberal bias? Stuffing words into my mouth
in the process, at that.

If it's your position that the conservatives are the ones going around
calling people "utterly incompetent", while the liberals acknowledge that
one can be poorly informed without being "utterly incompetent", well...I
have to say, that's not a very complimentary view of conservatives you've
got there.

If that's not your position, then your reply is just stupid as it doesn't
conform to your position. No, scratch that. It was stupid
regardless...even if you do think conservatives are of the mind to judge
people "utterly incompetent" without even reviewing the facts, I'd say this
is hardly the place to bring it up.

Next thing we know, you'll be posting something that triggers Godwin's Law.
Dude, we're talking about piloting technique, not politics. Get a grip.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Well, no offense, but that isn't an American way of looking at it.
That is a liberals way of looking at it. To a liberal, everything
that goes wrong is someone else's fault.

Wow. Of all the idiotic things I've seen, this ranks right up there.
I knew no thread in r.a.piloting is safe from politicization, but the
leap you took right there...that takes the cake.

How in the world did this become "liberal vs conservative" thing?

A liberal, a conservative and a horse walk into a bar, and the bartender
says, "What is this, a joke?"

(This being an aviation forum, I thought a little levity might help take
the edge off. And if it doesn't, no loss - my predilection toward
libertarianism means I can enjoy the spectacle without being a target.
Being part of an insignificant political minority takes the edge off the
rare attacks. ;-)

Peter Duniho wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

Well, no offense, but that isn't an American way of looking at it. That
is a liberals way of looking at it. To a liberal, everything that goes
wrong is someone else's fault.


Wow. Of all the idiotic things I've seen, this ranks right up there. I
knew no thread in r.a.piloting is safe from politicization, but the leap you
took right there...that takes the cake.

You need to get out more as you haven't seen much then.


How in the world did this become "liberal vs conservative" thing? It's bad
enough Thomas seems to think we're talking about lawsuits here, but now you
jump in with your obvious anti-liberal bias? Stuffing words into my mouth
in the process, at that.

It is simply a statement of fact. How did I stuff words in your mouth?
I was replying to Thomas, not to you.

Yes, I'm proudly anti-liberal and make no attempt to hide that. Thank
you for noticing. :-)


If it's your position that the conservatives are the ones going around
calling people "utterly incompetent", while the liberals acknowledge that
one can be poorly informed without being "utterly incompetent", well...I
have to say, that's not a very complimentary view of conservatives you've
got there.

Funny, I don't recall making any statement about being utterly
incompetent. Can you point it out?


If that's not your position, then your reply is just stupid as it doesn't
conform to your position. No, scratch that. It was stupid
regardless...even if you do think conservatives are of the mind to judge
people "utterly incompetent" without even reviewing the facts, I'd say this
is hardly the place to bring it up.

Again, I don't know where you are getting this "utterly incompetent"
stuff from.


Next thing we know, you'll be posting something that triggers Godwin's Law.
Dude, we're talking about piloting technique, not politics. Get a grip.

No, Thomas was talking about taking responsibility for one's actions or
the lack thereof, actually, and claiming that was an American way of
looking at things. I was simply point out that it wasn't an American
way of looking at things. Are you having a hard time following the thread?

Matt

("Jim Logajan" wrote)
A liberal, a conservative and a horse walk into a bar, and the bartender
says, "What is this, a joke?"


A termite walks into a bar and says, "Where's the Bartender?"


Montblack

Montblack wrote:

("Jim Logajan" wrote)

A liberal, a conservative and a horse walk into a bar, and the
bartender says, "What is this, a joke?"



A termite walks into a bar and says, "Where's the Bartender?"

Groan...


Matt

The response seemed on point to me. I, for one, share the view that the
liberal position is often little more than hysterical whining about the
perceived wrongs of others. There is no concept of self-reliance or
introspection in what I hear from liberals.

In fact, until today, I thought that all liberals were humorless drones. I
saw a great bumper sticker which convinced me there a at least a vestigial
sense of humor. It said, "Democrats are Hot! (Did you ever hear of a fine
piece of Elephant.?)"

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Well, no offense, but that isn't an American way of looking at it. That
is a liberals way of looking at it. To a liberal, everything that goes
wrong is someone else's fault.

Wow. Of all the idiotic things I've seen, this ranks right up there. I
knew no thread in r.a.piloting is safe from politicization, but the leap
you took right there...that takes the cake.

Matt Whiting wrote:
Yes, I'm proudly anti-liberal and make no attempt to hide that.

I'm proudly anti-off-topic-divisive posts and make no attempt to hide that.
The common bond on these groups is an interest in aviation - not politics.
Some off topic drift is harmless, but some tends to poison forums, so if
you (and others) could suppress those proud urgings, I'm sure everyone
would appreciate it! Thanks!

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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[...]
No, Thomas was talking about taking responsibility for one's actions or
the lack thereof, actually, and claiming that was an American way of
looking at things. I was simply point out that it wasn't an American way
of looking at things. Are you having a hard time following the thread?

No, but it seems you are. With your reference to the previous comments and
the reuse of their pronouns, rather than starting a new train of thought,
you necessarily framed your comments directly with respect to my original
statement, as did Thomas.

He's the one who used "utterly incompetent", and my point in responding was
to address that misuse. The entire thread at that point is about the
accusation of "utterly incompetent", and if you choose to insert yourself
into that thread without understanding it, that's your fault.

Through your reply to Thomas's post, you directly addressed the very
comments I made (which had *nothing* to do with one's political leanings
until you stuck your nose in), and indirectly (and incorrectly) affirmed
Thomas's view of them.

You, of course, will reply with, essentially, "no I didn't". Don't bother.
I can well believe you had no idea what it was you were actually replying to
(happens often enough on Usenet), but to claim that your reply didn't
actually wind up saying what it really did just digs your hole deeper.

Pete

"LWG" wrote in message
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The response seemed on point to me. I, for one, share the view that the
liberal position is often little more than hysterical whining about the
perceived wrongs of others.

Regardless of your view, it has NOTHING to do with what I wrote, and only
slightly more to do with what Thomas wrote (given that he missed the point
completely, being relevant to his point makes little sense).

There is no concept of self-reliance or introspection in what I hear from
liberals.

Irrelevant. Though, perhaps you should take a moment to consider that many
liberals see no concept of other admirable traits in what they hear from
conservatives.

Liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, doesn't matter...they all
have something negative and ignorant to say about the other, and NONE of
that crap has any place here.

Pete

("Jim Logajan" wrote)
Yes, I'm proudly anti-liberal and make no attempt to hide that.

I'm proudly anti-off-topic-divisive posts and make no attempt to hide
that. The common bond on these groups is an interest in aviation - not
politics.


Wow. All I was hoping for was - "Trim your posts, please."


Montblack :-)