Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

Larry Dighera wrote:

On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com::


where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up
with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great
Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe
some petty government official?


Where else in the world can a pilot be shot down for flying within a
38 mile radius of his nation's capital?

And how many pilots have been shot down so far?

Matt

Thomas Borchert wrote:

Matt,


You would have to own your own oil well.



BS! Can't you Americans get into your head that there are countries
besides yours? Jeeze!

What has that got to do with my statement above? I fully recognize
there are countries other than my own. I also know a little about the
costs of flying in Europe. It is 2-10X more costly than in the USA last
I knew. If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it as it
will help Jay. Why do you think so many European pilots come to the US
for flight training? Even with travel and living costs it is cheaper
than training in Europe.


Matt

Thomas Borchert wrote:

Matt,


Firearms are much more restricted in Australia than
here.



One would certainly have to discuss whether that enhances or diminishes
one's freedom. Depends on which side of the gun you're on.

The reality is that criminals will always have guns. Making it an even
fight is the only way to maintain any semblance of freedom.

Matt

Morgans wrote:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Matt,


You would have to own your own oil well.


BS! Can't you Americans get into your head that there are countries
besides yours? Jeeze!


A little over reacting, perhaps?

That was ONLY a comment on the fact that it would be very expensive to do
the trip.

Jeeze!

Yes, he lacks the perception skills to understand that.

Matt

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:09:58 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote in
::

English in the radio is not a problem, except in France ;-)

Are you referring to the fact that French pilots tend to announce
position reports at uncontrolled fields in their native tongue?

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:08:39 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote in ::


And how many pilots have been shot down so far?

How many pilots have been forced to lay face down on the ground and
submit to law enforcement's manacles solely as a result of flying
within 38 miles of our nation's capital?

In article ,
"Quilljar" wrote:

Great! one out of 200 million has a sense of irony!

The USA is suppose to hit 300 million in October.

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

How many pilots have been forced to lay face down on the ground and
submit to law enforcement's manacles solely as a result of flying
within 38 miles of our nation's capital?

Why limit it to Washington DC?
Go back and read the story of mistaken identity for the unfortunate
individuals who happened to land at the wrong airport in Florida, had
their airplane flipped by rotor wash from a Customs Blackhawk, were
pulled injured from the damaged aircraft, hogtied with guns and
screaming Customs and DEA agents in their face, and left in said
condition abruptly when one of the helicopter crew yelled that they had
the wrong plane, that the one they wanted was still airborne and the
Citation with the FLIR was still tracking, the agents reboarded the
Blackhawk and off they flew.

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:26:47 GMT, john smith wrote in
::

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

How many pilots have been forced to lay face down on the ground and
submit to law enforcement's manacles solely as a result of flying
within 38 miles of our nation's capital?

Why limit it to Washington DC?
Go back and read the story of mistaken identity for the unfortunate
individuals who happened to land at the wrong airport in Florida, had
their airplane flipped by rotor wash from a Customs Blackhawk, were
pulled injured from the damaged aircraft, hogtied with guns and
screaming Customs and DEA agents in their face, and left in said
condition abruptly when one of the helicopter crew yelled that they had
the wrong plane, that the one they wanted was still airborne and the
Citation with the FLIR was still tracking, the agents reboarded the
Blackhawk and off they flew.

I hope those who were abused by the misguided LEOs were justly
compensated, and those who committed such a repugnant act were
appropriately punished.


So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing
we have to fear is fear itself... [and a tyrannical president
drunk
with power]
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:08:39 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote in ::


And how many pilots have been shot down so far?


How many pilots have been forced to lay face down on the ground and
submit to law enforcement's manacles solely as a result of flying
within 38 miles of our nation's capital?


Beats me, but that wasn't the claim.


Matt