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#91
May 5th 04, 01:55 AM
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"Yardpilot" wrote in message news:ZyPlc.30855$0H1.2564968@attbi_s54...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message om... BTW, are you aware of who it was that set the wheels in motion on this matter? Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My Lai. The wheels were going in circles befor that. No, "Fred," that is not the case. The wheels were set rolling by a report from a soldier. Free free to prove your assertion. In particular, feel free to show us how many were charged before the photos were released. Direct us the news conference in which the DOD informed us of the incidents before the story broke in the media. Show us how the guard convicted earlier this year of murdering an Iraqi prisoner was punished. Direct us to the DOD news release about that trial. -- FF 
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#92
May 5th 04, 02:01 AM
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I'm removing this from talk.politics.guns becuase it never should have
been crossposted there in the first place. "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:UjPlc.21527$TD4.3087722@attbi_s01... "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message om... "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:LGalc.11890$TD4.1379817@attbi_s01... "Pooched" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:24:47 GMT, "Yardpilot" wrote: Interestingly I can't find anything from Amerikan sources. Then you haven't actually looked. Keep your head in the sand. It's safer. You're the one that made a false claim, dudley. The information was readily available. Prove it. Wrong order, "Fred." The claim was first made that the information was unavailible. Prove that then I'll take a minute to prove you are wrong and worse. Grow some balls, "Fred." I see you are a student of the GWB school of logic which maintains that one can prove a negative. YOU asserted that the information was readily available. All I ask is that you prove the information was readily available. Then I'l be happy to review it. Got the balls to try? -- FF
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#93
May 5th 04, 02:07 AM
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"Yardpilot" wrote in message news:RlPlc.31388$Ik.1945229@attbi_s53...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message om... "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:3U4lc.14010$kh4.813712@attbi_s52... "Pooched" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 May 2004 07:47:43 GMT, "Yardpilot" wrote: "Pooched" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 01 May 2004 00:14:56 GMT, "Yardpilot" wrote: Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or support such actions, and punishes the people involved. Correction needed.... America has been routinely transferring suspects to other countries to be tortured. A Canadian Muslim recently went through this. I somehow missed your reference, link, or citation on this. Would you mind posting it again? You DID post one, didn't you? I figured ppl would already know. Here's some links: http://www.altmuslim.com/politics_co...=1111_0_10_0_C Doesn't support your claim. That's a damn lie. No, "Fred," your fake name is a damn lie. Nothiong you flap on about supports the claim that "... America has been routinely transferring suspects to other countries to be tortured." Now, do try to focus on the subject, spinboy.l I believe when you wrote: " I somehow missed your reference, link, or citation on this. Would you mind posting it again? You DID post one, didn't you?" you were refering to "A Canadian Muslim recently went through this." which was amply proven by the sources provided. You really don't read newspapers, do you? -- FF
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#94
May 5th 04, 02:07 AM
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"Yardpilot" wrote in message news:jwhlc.18904$kh4.1100203@attbi_s52...
"Pooched" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:08:39 GMT, "Morton Davis" wrote: "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message . com... "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:3_Bkc.1303$_41.52280@attbi_s02... Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for doing crap like this. Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or support such actions, and punishes the people involved. It's not not good. In News Conferences spokesmen for the DOD admitted that prisoners at Guatanomo Bay were being subjected to sleep deprivation and forced into 'uncompfortable positions' for long periods of time. In the same statements the same spokemen denied they were being tortured. Not by accepted definitions of torture. How Republican of you to point that out. Lets see you stand in the same 1 foot circle for 48 hours. Lets see you not be allowed to sleep for 4 days. Let's see you support your claim, for a change. Perhaps he can refer you he http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1403812000d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ef427f7c.0405030951.7fe475b6%40posting.goog le.com -- FF
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#95
May 5th 04, 02:17 AM
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talk.politics.guns removed from distribution as this thread should
never have been crossposted there in the first place. "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:yEIkc.6651$Ik.592666@attbi_s53... "Morton Davis" wrote in message news:KACkc.1001$Ia6.92253@attbi_s03... Where are the videos of Americans cheering in the streets over what happened, like the supporters ofd the "insurgents" when they hung the burned bodies of our dead from bridges? There are none because we are not cheering. If something like this happens, we crack down on the perpetrators. Few if any people celebrate such things. It seems we worry more about people in other countries than we do our own when it comes to abuse of authority. Feel free to prove your assertion. Here's proof of how the Bush Administration cracked down BEFOR photos were published: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=518258 In Washington, an army official revealed that one US soldier was convicted of murder for shooting a prisoner to death in September 2003 at a detention centre in Iraq, and that another prisoner was killed at the Abu Ghraib jail near Baghdad two months later by a private contractor working for the CIA. The soldier - convicted by court martial - was thrown out of the service but did not serve time in jail. The official said that the soldier shot the prisoner after he had thrown stones at him. The serviceman was found to have used excessive force. No action was taken against the CIA contractor because the military had no legal jurisdiction. OTOH, Reuters reported that the soldier was convicted of murder for killing the prisoner with a stone. It seems we need the text of the actua DOD news release. Would you care to post it for us? -- FF
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#96
May 5th 04, 02:45 AM
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"torresD" wrote in message ink.net... Rape Rooms, Torture Rooms are under new management. Snail **** is more intelligent than you.
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#97
May 5th 04, 03:56 AM
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#98
May 5th 04, 03:59 AM
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#99
May 5th 04, 04:01 AM
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 01:43:36 GMT, "Yardpilot"
wrote: SHHHH! You'll ruin Dubya's chances of getting reelected if you force his priests to see the world as it really is! So, you can't support your claim. No surprise there. You seem to be hung up Tourette's style with "You can't support your claim. Prove it." Trying to prove that 2+2=4 to children would be easier than trying to prove it to you.
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#100
May 5th 04, 04:03 AM
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