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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:37:23 GMT, "La N"
wrote: "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. Heheheh. What would my friends think if they spotted me reading those books on my free time ... That the library's logistics system had supplied the wrong material? Peter Skelton |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
"Peter Skelton" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:20:27 -0800, redc1c4 wrote: Peter Skelton wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:42:51 GMT, "La N" wrote: "Vince" wrote in message news La N wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... You said something dumb - then myself and red started making fun of you by - using standardized logistics terminology that you did not understand. Well, Vince, if nothing else, you can bust Colin on very bad grammar ... - nilita he does not know the difference between supply and logistics so the case is closed Well, it has been an "interesting" debate between 2 people, each of whom has never been known to admit when they have been wrong ...%) That is not a fair accusation when aimed at Vince. Peter Skelton cite? redc1c4, who's seen Ponce be wrong many times, but who's never seen him admit it. I've never seen you admit it either, and I've sure as hell seen you wrong. Ayup. Not admitting that one is wrong seems to be a defended Usenet "disease". (The whole V-22 thing has two wrong sides screaming yes and no about something clearly unproven.) What Vince does, like most posters, is abandons a point where he is clearly incorrect. Pragmatically speaking, it's a good approach. It is one approach. And, now, can you tell me where Vince has been "incorrect"? I'm being facetious. I do believe that most posters believe themselves to be *right* all of the time; and, if they "abaondon a point" knowing they're wrong, it's barely noticeable. Anyway, this supply/logistics debate seems to be about semantics. People can mean what they want it to mean. The "proper" [military] definition and distinct interpretation is helpful. - nilita |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
"Peter Skelton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:37:23 GMT, "La N" wrote: "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. Heheheh. What would my friends think if they spotted me reading those books on my free time ... That the library's logistics system had supplied the wrong material? It's bad enough that I had to return a book, unread, due to lack of time and not wanting to pay the library fine. It's a book I would rather read than one on military logistics ... . And, btw, I'm wondering if anybody here has read the book in question. It's: _Too Far from Home: A Story of Life and Death in Space_ by Chris Jones (Author) Here is an editorial review from amazon.com: "Editorial Reviews From Publishers Weekly When the space shuttle Columbia broke up during its re-entry into Earth's atmosphere in February 2003, two American astronauts were still aboard the International Space Station, along with a Russian flight engineer. With further NASA flights suspended for months, perhaps years, questions began to emerge not only about how to bring the three men back, but how to provide them with enough supplies while they remained in space. Jones first wrote about the Expedition 6 team in an award-winning article for Esquire (where he is a contributing editor), and his story combines gripping narrative and strongly defined characters. Though extensive accounts of the Americans' backgrounds seems at first to put the brakes on, it's a necessary counterweight to parallel passages about the little-understood Russian space program-essential information because the three eventually took "an accelerated, lung-crushing dive" in a Soyuz capsule. In addition to that adventure, Jones's reporting is filled with details of life aboard the space station, from the amazing beauty of a space walk to the more mundane problem of "taking a crap" in zero gravity. That sort of frank talk enhances readers' identification with the astronauts, making their drama all the more engrossing. (Mar. 6) " - nilita |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. -- There can be no triumph without loss. No victory without suffering. No freedom without sacrifice. |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
La N wrote:
"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita the naval classic for the front end of fleet logistics is Beans Bullets and Black oil http://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/hyperwar/...BO/BBBO-2.html The back end is shipbuilding and similar procurement Vince |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
"Vince" wrote in message . .. La N wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita the naval classic for the front end of fleet logistics is Beans Bullets and Black oil http://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/hyperwar/...BO/BBBO-2.html The back end is shipbuilding and similar procurement Vince Okay, another idea. You know, I really *do* look these things up when you guys pique my interest. But, I'm also overbooking myself with *other* projects and stuff to read ...%) And, btw, I just went to amazon.com to look at these books. Interestingly, customers that bought Colin's suggested "How To Make War" also bought such selections as: "Dictionary of Modern War" by Edward Luttwak, "How To Stop a War" by Dunnigan, "War: Ends and Means" by Angelo Codevilla. "Beans Bullets and Black Oil" seems to be out of print or out of stock. - nilita |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
On Feb 10, 3:11 pm, "La N" wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message . .. La N wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in messagenews:ihkuq3hm3ipao88pp106pt4ql0rdeijj54@4ax .com... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita the naval classic for the front end of fleet logistics is Beans Bullets and Black oil http://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/hyperwar/...BO/BBBO-2.html The back end is shipbuilding and similar procurement Vince Okay, another idea. You know, I really *do* look these things up when you guys pique my interest. But, I'm also overbooking myself with *other* projects and stuff to read ...%) And, btw, I just went to amazon.com to look at these books. Interestingly, customers that bought Colin's suggested "How To Make War" also bought such selections as: "Dictionary of Modern War" by Edward Luttwak, "How To Stop a War" by Dunnigan, "War: Ends and Means" by Angelo Codevilla. "Beans Bullets and Black Oil" seems to be out of print or out of stock. - nilita Depends on whether you want to spend $68 (low) or $450 (high) from Alibris. |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
La N wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message . .. La N wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita the naval classic for the front end of fleet logistics is Beans Bullets and Black oil http://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/hyperwar/...BO/BBBO-2.html The back end is shipbuilding and similar procurement Vince Okay, another idea. You know, I really *do* look these things up when you guys pique my interest. But, I'm also overbooking myself with *other* projects and stuff to read ...%) And, btw, I just went to amazon.com to look at these books. Interestingly, customers that bought Colin's suggested "How To Make War" also bought such selections as: "Dictionary of Modern War" by Edward Luttwak, "How To Stop a War" by Dunnigan, "War: Ends and Means" by Angelo Codevilla. "Beans Bullets and Black Oil" seems to be out of print or out of stock. - nilita the cite has the book its on the web Vince |
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"V-22 squadron achieves successin Iraq, USMC says"
"Vince" wrote in message . .. La N wrote: "Vince" wrote in message . .. La N wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:46 +0000, "Paul J. Adam" wrote: In message slsrj.19263$C61.5339@edtnps89, La N writes Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it up myself: Two cracking books on the subject, if you're interested: "Supplying War" by Martin van Creveld, and "Lifeblood of War" by Julian Thompson. IMO the best book for learning about 'real world' military logistics is the chapter on the subject in the book: 'How To Make War' by James Dunnigan. Okay, that I've heard of. - nilita the naval classic for the front end of fleet logistics is Beans Bullets and Black oil http://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/hyperwar/...BO/BBBO-2.html The back end is shipbuilding and similar procurement Vince Okay, another idea. You know, I really *do* look these things up when you guys pique my interest. But, I'm also overbooking myself with *other* projects and stuff to read ...%) And, btw, I just went to amazon.com to look at these books. Interestingly, customers that bought Colin's suggested "How To Make War" also bought such selections as: "Dictionary of Modern War" by Edward Luttwak, "How To Stop a War" by Dunnigan, "War: Ends and Means" by Angelo Codevilla. "Beans Bullets and Black Oil" seems to be out of print or out of stock. - nilita the cite has the book its on the web Yeah, after I posted the above, I looked at the cite. It has various chapters available to read. Bookmarked. - nilita |
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