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Sure, but that doesn't take care of INADVERTENT opening of the
spoilers. Examples: weak geometric lock + some turbulence; Dual-command + some confusion in the other seat; You can probably think of more examples... Uri Pete Zeugma wrote in message ... At 22:18 14 March 2004, Uri Saovray wrote: Speaking of simple warning devices: How about a simple hookup to a horn which is activated when the airbrakes are opened while the towhook is engaged (i.e. open spoilers during tow)? A microswitch on the airbrake levers would be the no-brainer part. What about the towhook? Magnetic sensor? where? How? Other ideas? how about the last 'B' in CB-SIFT-CB i've always found it to be a no-brainer personally, and its completely free! Usually accompanied by the guy who attaches the towrope/cable saying that phrase 'brakes closed and locked?' |
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I forgot to mention that the stall warning unit, set normally to about
10% stall margin. appears to be of help while thermalling also. Going too slow and/or pulling too many "G" will increase drag, besides being dangerous. A prompt easing of the stick back-pressure quickly silences the small piezo horn's warning signal. Dick Johnson |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:46:48 UTC, cernauta
wrote: : We must think : world-wise if we want to create an opportunity for development of the : sport. Why? Ian -- |
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Soaring ought to be about flying the aircraft, not just monitoring the government-mandated distractions. The thing would either be activated during most thermaling, If the problem you're solving is landing accidents, simply disable the device while the gear is up. If you have fixed gear..... or have such a close tolerance as to give no useful warning to those who would most need it This is a good point. The Skylane that I own a small piece of has a horn that sounds about 10 kts before the actual stall - and as such, is pretty useless, IMHO. This is pretty typical for most power planes and during a normal landing you expect it to go off. The problem with a close tolerance is false alarms. If the alarm goes off too often due to gusts, or what ever, a pilot will tend to ignore it when it's really trying to tell you something. Dick Johnson feels that a properly designed stall warning works in gliders. He knows more than I. Still, I can't help but think of all the power pilots that have landed gear up while the gear warning was blaring. They were (typically) totally distracted during a high pressure situation and either did not hear it or failed to grasp its significance. Tony V. |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:12:18 GMT, Jack wrote:
Right on! And exactly why we get so many arrogant and ultimately ignorant remarks concerning the so-called inadequacies of the PW-5. Clearly, too many people don't understand the concept of competition. Gliding is not about competition. Gliding is about having fun. As others have pointed out before, I don't have fun to spent my hard-earned money on a Ka-6 performing glider instead of a beautiful ASW-20. Not to mention that I don't have fun to fly such a thing after I'm used to the performance of a 40+ L/D. Bye Andreas |
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Well not so sure Jack does not have a point, Ben.
In your post dated 10 March at 10:12- In 5 sentences you managed to, 1.) Use 'I' six times 2.) Mention your latest ship twice 3.) Mention your first ship once 4.) Use 'overprice rubbish' to describe other's aircraft So maybe that stereotype of the 'gl***hole' has some validity. At 12:24 15 March 2004, Ben Flewett wrote: Jack, You are right. I take back everything I have said about the PW5. SNIP Are you honestly suggesting that people should WANT to sell their beautiful German sailplanes and buy PW5s? Have you ever flown a glider? Ben. |
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Stewart,
You must be more bored than me. In response to the four points you raise below: 1) So what? 2) So what? 3) So what? 4) Someone made a similarly derogatory remark about my sailplane type a few postings ago - I was not offended as they are entitled to their opinion. The fact remains - you can't dictate to people what they _should_ want. Otherwise, the World Class would be a roaring success and I would be wrong. But (sadly) it's not and I'm not. Regards, Ben. At 16:54 15 March 2004, Stewart Kissel wrote: Well not so sure Jack does not have a point, Ben. In your post dated 10 March at 10:12- In 5 sentences you managed to, 1.) Use 'I' six times 2.) Mention your latest ship twice 3.) Mention your first ship once 4.) Use 'overprice rubbish' to describe other's aircraft So maybe that stereotype of the 'gl***hole' has some validity. At 12:24 15 March 2004, Ben Flewett wrote: Jack, You are right. I take back everything I have said about the PW5. SNIP Are you honestly suggesting that people should WANT to sell their beautiful German sailplanes and buy PW5s? Have you ever flown a glider? Ben. |
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If PW-5 owners are really as content as they claim to be, why are they
so touchy and defensive? I think it's pretty obvious that they are in denial. They invested in these machines thinking that the world class would take off, and instead it flopped, and they are stuck with these expensive fiberglass lawn ornanments, and that reality is just too disturbing for them to come to terms with. So they attack the messengers instead. If PW-5'ers did more flying and less whining perhaps they could convince us otherwise. Jon Meyer wrote in message ... I think you are missing the point that most people have made about the PW5, those that aren't ignorant anyway. The point is that it does not perform well enough to justify the price tag. I cannot understand the mentality of people who would rather fork out £20k+ for a sailplane with the performance only slightly better than a K6e when they could get a second hand LS4 or ASW20 for the same or less money! I would have thought that a one-type class based on an existing design (which could be very cheaply put back into production) would make far more sense. After all, some of us can't even afford a brand new PW5, but can afford an old ratty ASW20 or LS4. This is not about elitism in terms of money, its about common sense and value for money. The PW5 has an abundance of neither. LS4 for the world class! |
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I'm so tight in my Cirrus I can inadvertently open the airbrakes by moving my
left arm back. There is enough friction between my arm and the actuator to overcome the geometric lock. Quite exciting when you do that on your first single seater launch in a Cirrus on a winch... Uri Saovray wrote: Sure, but that doesn't take care of INADVERTENT opening of the spoilers. Examples: weak geometric lock + some turbulence; Dual-command + some confusion in the other seat; You can probably think of more examples... Uri Pete Zeugma wrote in message ... At 22:18 14 March 2004, Uri Saovray wrote: Speaking of simple warning devices: How about a simple hookup to a horn which is activated when the airbrakes are opened while the towhook is engaged (i.e. open spoilers during tow)? A microswitch on the airbrake levers would be the no-brainer part. What about the towhook? Magnetic sensor? where? How? Other ideas? how about the last 'B' in CB-SIFT-CB i've always found it to be a no-brainer personally, and its completely free! Usually accompanied by the guy who attaches the towrope/cable saying that phrase 'brakes closed and locked?' |
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And you think that you can find a legitimate company that will make
LS-4 in the same price range? Where/how do I put down payment?!! |
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