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I'm also surprised the useful load is so close. I thought Jay said the
Pathfinder positively trounced the 182 in this regard? 1230 versus 1460 pounds? Sounds like "trounced" to me! ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Yes, I don't see any great deals on 182s. The demand seems to be
holding for them. I did notice that 235s are pretty cheap, but not cheap enough to sway me that direction. I'd rather downgrade to a Skyhawk to save a few bucks if it comes to that when I buy my next airplane ... which will hopefully be this year. Be careful when doing these comparisons -- the pre-'73 PA28-235 is a completely different plane than the Charger/Pathfinder/Dakota, due to their shorter fuselage and smaller stabilator. Pre-'73 235s can be had relatively cheaply (compared to a 182) because they aren't comparable aircraft. Post-'73 -235s and -236s have held their value quite well, and are comparable to the Skylane in every way. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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We are happy owners of a 150 hp Warrior...
We loved our Warrior -- it was a sweet plane, and your mods sound great. If it was just Mary and me, we'd have likely kept it forever. Unfortunately, there is no substitute for horsepower when you've got two growing teenagers. When we couldn't get off the ground anymore on a hot day, we knew it was time to look for something bigger. The Pathfinder has been our perfect solution. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Beech just announced they are lowering prices on the Bonanza and Baron.
Now a typically outfitted glass panel Bo has a suggested retail of $574K down from $667K. The Baron goes from $1.186 million to $1.046 million. That's absurd. What kind of a dolt would pay that kind of money for what amounts to a brand-new antique? You can buy a perfectly good used biz-jet for those prices! It would certainly take an unusual combination of money and gullibility -- which (I suppose) explains why Beech sells so few of them. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Matt,
Operational costs maybe, but initial purchase of a Bo isn't inexpensive by any measure. IMHO, we're comparing apples and oranges here. You won't find a Trinidad older than mid-80s, since they weren't built before. Now compare the price of a late-80s Bo to a Trinidad. See? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I think they are ugly. I like the looks of Jays Pathfinder better than a Trinidad. :-) Although our Pathfinder is a very fine looking plane, I'd have to give the styling edge to the Trinidad. But I wouldn't trade Atlas for one, even up. I don't like the way the lines don't seem to "line up" on the windows and I don't like the looks at all of the tail at all with the rudder so far forward compared to the elevator. It just looks like parts to stuck on rather than designed in. Matt |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Yes, I don't see any great deals on 182s. The demand seems to be holding for them. I did notice that 235s are pretty cheap, but not cheap enough to sway me that direction. I'd rather downgrade to a Skyhawk to save a few bucks if it comes to that when I buy my next airplane ... which will hopefully be this year. Be careful when doing these comparisons -- the pre-'73 PA28-235 is a completely different plane than the Charger/Pathfinder/Dakota, due to their shorter fuselage and smaller stabilator. Pre-'73 235s can be had relatively cheaply (compared to a 182) because they aren't comparable aircraft. Post-'73 -235s and -236s have held their value quite well, and are comparable to the Skylane in every way. They make 245s with two doors, a wide cockpit and a high wing? :-) If not, they aren't comparable to a 182 in every way or even the ways important to me. Matt |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm also surprised the useful load is so close. I thought Jay said the Pathfinder positively trounced the 182 in this regard? 1230 versus 1460 pounds? Sounds like "trounced" to me! Where is the 1460? I see 1222 for the Dakota and 1230 for the Skylane? Looks like a small win for the Skylane if anything. Can you point out the 1460 in his post? Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote: Jay Honeck wrote: I'm also surprised the useful load is so close. I thought Jay said the Pathfinder positively trounced the 182 in this regard? 1230 versus 1460 pounds? Sounds like "trounced" to me! Where is the 1460? I see 1222 for the Dakota and 1230 for the Skylane? Looks like a small win for the Skylane if anything. Can you point out the 1460 in his post? I think Jay is saying he has 1460 lbs useful load on his airplane. I question that. I cannot believe he has an additional 230 lbs of useful load unless there is a drop in the max gross weight between the 235 and the 236/Dakota. His BEW simply cannot be that much lower. |
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"Douglas Paterson" wrote in message . .. "Newps" wrote in message . .. Douglas Paterson wrote: The further I get in this process, the more I'm leaning away from the Comanche and toward the Trinidad You said the Bonanza was not the right plane for you but the Trinidad is? Holy Cow. I don't understand this comment. You're obviously a Bonanza fan, and I'm starting to gather you don't care for Trinidads--but am I missing something objective here? Let's see....repair costs, parts availability, then he contrasts that with the real world of parts supply chain from Bonanza. Hey, you asked for counsel, but it sounds like you already had your mind made-up. Matt Barrow Beech 36-TN |
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