CRJ crash at KLEX:

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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KLEX?

"NOTICE TO CREW OPERATING OUT OF KLEX, Lexington, Kentucky"

CLOSE PROXIMITY OF RWY 22 and RWY 26

As the departure ends of RWY 22 and RWY 26 are in very close proximity to
each other, exercise extreme caution and confirm visually and by reference
to flight instruments that you are on RWY 22.

Like this close? Rwy 2 and 7 at Williamsburg/Newport News (PHF)
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0608/00957AD.PDF

Seems like you smack the guy on the other runway with your wingtip.

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Narrative
ACFT WAS CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF (TFC INSIDE THE MARKER) ON RWY 22. WE
TAXIED ONTO RWY AND TOLD TWR WE NEEDED A MOMENT TO CHK OUR DEP ROUTING
WITH OUR WX RADAR (STORMS IN THE AREA, RAINING AT THE ARPT).


Why would anyone accept a clearance for immediate takeoff, taxi onto the
runway, and then tell the tower a moment on the runway was needed?

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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The first page of their Jep binders? In bold letters on any/all SIDs for
KLEX?

"NOTICE TO CREW OPERATING OUT OF KLEX, Lexington, Kentucky"

CLOSE PROXIMITY OF RWY 22 and RWY 26

As the departure ends of RWY 22 and RWY 26 are in very close proximity to
each other, exercise extreme caution and confirm visually and by reference
to flight instruments that you are on RWY 22. RWY 26 UNUSABLE for turbine
aircraft use.


The airport diagram conveys all of that information.

"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
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The guy may be a troll, but it does appear that the flight crew used the
wrong runway. When you make such a critical error and kill 49 people,
it's a bit more serious than an average "mistake."


Yes, but I'm pretty sure they didn't choose runway 26 because "it was closer
to the terminal."

"Marco Leon" wrote in message
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And it does seem to be a "chain of events" in that there were multiple
ways that they may have been able to spot the mistake:
- runway sign
- runway numbers
- DG heading
- 75 ft wide rwy versus 150 ft


The "75 ft wide rwy versus 150 ft" is just a couple of white paint stripes,
the pavement is 150 feet wide on both runways.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Have you ever been in a two person crew, on an early morning flight, in
the weather conditions at LEX?


What were the weather conditions at LEX at the time?

"Emily" wrote in message
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Weather not a factor, it was VFR.


I heard it was raining....granted, I'm pretty much ignoring the news,
since they're wrong on most things anyway.


Who said it was raining?

"Tony" wrote in message
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If you pull up a sat image of the airport it appears the thresholds for
22 and 26 are along the same line of sight from the tower. It wouldn't
have been obvious the airplane was at the wrong runway from the tower..


Many pilots call ready for takeoff while still rolling on the taxiway.
Calling ready to go while still south of runway 22 wouldn't suggest to the
tower that they were about to turn on to that runway.

"soxinbox" wrote in message
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You just proved her point. You placed blame and stopped, having learned
nothing.
Sure the pilots are probably at fault, but what lead them to that fault
and what can be done to prevent other pilots from making the same mistake?


THE same mistake? Singular? How many clues that they were on the wrong
runway did two professional pilots have to ignore in order for this accident
to happen?

Why would anyone accept a clearance for immediate takeoff, taxi onto the
runway, and then tell the tower a moment on the runway was needed?

Perhaps they discovered something (potentially fatal) in the interim?

Jose
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