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I give up, after many, many years!
On May 13, 11:44 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
After tomorrow, I won't need to. As far as that subject goes, I don't see MX or his dribble, Well, before you go, it's "drivel" |
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I give up, after many, many years!
On May 13, 11:44*pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"romeomike" wrote in message ... Morgans wrote: This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a response to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX. Once I posted a complaint about the OT posts of one of your buddies here, and you replied with a condescending offer to show me how to use a kill file. Why don't you just follow your own advice? After tomorrow, I won't need to. As far as that subject goes, I don't see MX or his dribble, nor do I see many of his prime supporters and troll buddies. *I have a larger kill file by tenfold, than I have ever had before. *I do see some of it in the replies sent his way, regardless. There is no way to filter out every one of those, without filtering most of the group. Past that, what I object to, is what his presence has done to this group, as I already stated. *Many good people are not willing to wade through the crap, and are no longer participating. *There is less and less reason to look here, any longer. *Tomorrow, I will be gone, with them. Long ago, when a personality like this appeared, he was shown the door, and it was made to stick. No longer, unfortunately. Oh, by the way, thanks, you are in my trash bin, thanks to your timely reminder. -- Jim in NC I have been posting here since 1994, so I've seen many kinds. Long ago, when personalities like this appeared, they were dealt with professionally. MX's naiive questions could be answered in a simple one-liner, or ignored. But his groupies are constantly barraging with endless taunts and insults. With the abundance of throw-away email addresses and perfect anonymity, insults and taunts have now become the norm. |
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I give up, after many, many years!
On May 13, 11:50 pm, HARRY POTTER wrote:
I agree with you on Bertie, but not MX. I honestly think MX posts here because he genuinely wants to learn about piloting. All his threads starts on a reasonable tone. Its other people who turn it into a ****fest, which he then responds to. His "trolling", I feel, is mainly caused by his frustration of the fact that people judge his opinions solely on who he is, rather than what he posts. If people treated his opinions like they would anybody else, he'd stop being so blatantly obtuse. You haven't been here long enough. Many times Mx or Le Chaud Lapin will ask a question, get the right answer in a polite manner, and then argue endlessly against that answer, belittling the teacher. What reaction would you expect? Many of the physics and other things in aviation are not intuitive; that is, they don't make sense to the uninitiated, and without well-rounded groundschooling and flight instruction they never will make sense. Flight simulators don't teach these things. Add to that the fact that there are people who are certain that they're much smarter than the average bear and so they have "new" answers to aviation's problems. Those new answers killed a lot of guys a long time ago but they don't know that. To them, "well-rounded groundschooling" is equal to standard party propaganda and therefore false. Do some searching on past posts and see what I mean. The only reason I answer him at all, when he asks a legitimate question, is that there are others lurking here who likely have the same questions in their minds. Something I've leaned as a classroom teacher: If one asks, some of the others want the answer, too. If those lurkers are still here, that is, after all the electronic mudslinging recently. Dan |
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I give up, after many, many years!
I humbly suggest that you change that criteria.
Geez, Jim -- with ALL the crap that's been going on here lately, you let a post about a WATCH push you over the edge? Have another beer and relax. You coming to OSH this year? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I give up, after many, many years!
Then why DO you do it? How exactly do you get satisfaction out of making
100 pointless oneliners every day to many people who don't even reply back? I have not seen MX, Jay Honeck, or many others reply to a single one of your "trolls" (or whatever you prefer to call them), yet you still persist. You're wasting your breath (and, worse, making the troll's posts visible to those who have killfiled him) -- there is no logic to mental illness. That's why it's classified as an "illness"... Trolls are like mosquitoes. Killfiles are like "Off!". I use both, and spend much less time itching. I suggest you follow suit. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I give up, after many, many years!
You haven't been here long enough. Many times Mx or Le Chaud
Lapin will ask a question, get the right answer in a polite manner, and then argue endlessly against that answer, belittling the teacher. I have been here forever, and I have NEVER seen MX belittle anyone. Not once. Now, either that's because I don't read every, single thread MX responds to, or it's because my definition of "belittling" differs from yours -- but I have only seen polite responses from him in the face of some VERY demeaning attacks. In this regard, he certainly doesn't fit the M.O. of most trolls. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I give up, after many, many years!
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:iQDWj.163659$yE1.32309@attbi_s21: Then why DO you do it? How exactly do you get satisfaction out of making 100 pointless oneliners every day to many people who don't even reply back? I have not seen MX, Jay Honeck, or many others reply to a single one of your "trolls" (or whatever you prefer to call them), yet you still persist. You're wasting your breath (and, worse, making the troll's posts visible to those who have killfiled him) -- there is no logic to mental illness. That's why it's classified as an "illness"... Trolls are like mosquitoes. Killfiles are like "Off!". I use both, and spend much less time itching. I suggest you follow suit. He did, fjukktard. That's why he can't see your poasts. Can't you read? Bertie |
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I give up, after many, many years!
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:NUDWj.109571$TT4.43765@attbi_s22: You haven't been here long enough. Many times Mx or Le Chaud Lapin will ask a question, get the right answer in a polite manner, and then argue endlessly against that answer, belittling the teacher. I have been here forever, and I have NEVER seen MX belittle anyone. Not once. I've seen him try, but of course, those went over your pointy head. Now, either that's because I don't read every, single thread MX responds to, or it's because my definition of "belittling" differs from yours -- but I have only seen polite responses from him in the face of some VERY demeaning attacks. In this regard, he certainly doesn't fit the M.O. of most trolls. You wouldn't know wat a troll was if it bit you in the nuts. Bertie |
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I give up, after many, many years!
Actually, the last pilot watch thread that I can remember was started
by Jay H. (I gotta admit I dont reference this list that often). I went and got a pretty decent watch , on sale no less, after reading that thread. I wear it every time I go flying. Right -- me, too. It was a good thread, and I ended up with a great, affordable flying watch, thanks to the recommendations from this group. Honestly, I don't understand why Jim (or anyone else) gets so riled up over MX. His threads are almost 100% on-topic, and who really cares if he's not a "real" pilot? The true harm comes from the trolls who follow him everywhere like butt-sniffing dogs, creating an atmosphere of bitterness and anger that poisons the free exchange of information in this group. How many great posts have been aborted, how many great posters have we lost, simply because they see what's posted here in response to apparently benign questions by guys like MX? Hell, if the group was like this ten years ago, I sure wouldn't have posted all the (probably stupid) questions that I did back then. Back then, however, guys like Denny, and gals like Snowbird, and a host of other incredibly experienced pilots patiently helped me learn the mysteries and intricacies of flying and aircraft ownership. They reveled in their ability to share their knowledge, and everyone was polite and grateful for their help. Later, after they had passed their knowledge on, many of us became the "experts" that newbies approached for answers. It was, quite literally, the perfect use for Usenet, and these groups flourished for many years. There were simply no trolls, and no killfiles were necessary. Oh, sure, there was the occasional spirited foray into politics, especially during the divisive 2000 and 2004 elections -- but it was (mostly) conducted politely and with good humor. Religion even popped in here once in a while -- but piloting never lost center stage. Until now. What's especially painful is that the worst trolls here are apparently real pilots. I've always believed that pilots were a cut-above the common man or woman, and I've built a successful business based on that model. Every time I come here now, though, I'm shown harsh evidence that mental illness and a pilot's certificate are not mutually exclusive. THAT is what is so sad -- and a little scary -- about the current state of our group. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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