B-52 Re-engining?

"MLenoch" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering"

wrote:
So, what did you do in the tire shop at Renton, Lenoch?


Why don't you find out, Mr. Omnipotent.

Knowing how an airplane works has begun to mean that sort of power.

"Tarver Engineering"

wrote:Knowing how an airplane works has begun to mean that sort of power.


Ooooooooh!
Please don't reply anymore.
My frail ego can't handle the stress - "riser".(rimshot)
VL

"MLenoch" wrote in message
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- "riser".(rimshot)

You misspelled loser.

Thanks for playing.

Weiss only comes here to be an unsufferable prick. The whole idea is one
cooked up at ALPA and posted on their website. It is a way to blow off
steam from a job, that includes much ass kissing. It is a good thing that
Weiss was able to think and then retract his rediculess assertion.


Congratulations, you have just described yourself.

Oops, now you will call me names again.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

From: (MLenoch)
Date: 9/29/2003 9:59 AM Central D
snip

"Fugoids"??? What, another Traverism? Me thinks its spelled
Phugoid.......with a "PH". Go ahead....look it up. My 5th graders'
dictionary
has it. Yours might.

VL

From : http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/org/a/...gue/node2.html

"T he phugoid mode is the simplest oscillatory mode in aircraft dynamics. The
only governing force is gravity, and energy is conserved, as there are no
dissipative mechanisms. The airplane can only trade kinetic energy for
potential and vice-versa. For a stationary observer the aircraft trajectory
looks like a sine wave, while for an observer moving with the 'average' speed
of the aircraft it looks like an ellipse. These are shown by the following
applet: "

Then they show graphics. I bet Tarver will say he doesn't have to look there
since he is smarter, that I am "trolling" and he will now call me names.

For the rest of you it is a rather nice visualization.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"Gord Beaman" wrote...

WRT John W's post. He's just risen 'another' notch in my
view when he corrected himself wrt the yaw damper providing
assistance in turns.

BTW, I watched from the jumpseat this morning on the approach into ICN (Incheon,
Korea). The yaw damper didn't do too good a job of coordinating turns -- saw a
consistent half-ball slip in the turns after established in the angle of bank.
Ball went back to center when wings were level.

BTW, I use the term "ball" here because virtually every pilot understands the
term in context. The 744 has an electronic slip indicator that we often refer
to the "sailboat" since it is a white oblong slip indicator under a white bank
angle pointer triangle on the Primary Flight Display.

From: "John R Weiss"

WRT John W's post. He's just risen 'another' notch in my
view when he corrected himself wrt the yaw damper providing
assistance in turns.


The yaw damper didn't do too good a job of coordinating turns -- saw a
consistent half-ball slip in the turns after established in the angle of
bank.

Agreed & very much appreciated.
Thank you,
VL

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Darrell" wrote in message
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No, use of the rudder is explicity unsafe.

Only if you have "Splaps" extended. Whoops. Using a Tarver term again.
(or
was that Splats?)

In fact, using spoiler flaps, as opposed to spoilers as speed brakes only,
is the means through which the rudder is reduced in size for both the
KC-135
and the B-52H. Current models of civilian two engine aircraft have been
designed away from that notion, due to engine out requirements. Keep in
mind that this is a military group, not bound by CFR14 legalese, Schmidt.

Beside being a Boeing instructor I was also an AA airline captain and as for
military, I spent 20 years in the Air Force and flew the B-52H you refer to
at Minot for 5 years. I was an instructor and in Stan Eval in B-52Hs. (we
didn't call them "splaps" or "Splats")

I was an instructor and in Stan Eval in B-52Hs. (we
didn't call them "splaps" or "Splats")


I believe the correct technical term is "them big floppy thingies on the
wings."

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"John R Weiss" wrote:

"Gord Beaman" wrote...

WRT John W's post. He's just risen 'another' notch in my
view when he corrected himself wrt the yaw damper providing
assistance in turns.

BTW, I watched from the jumpseat this morning on the approach into ICN (Incheon,
Korea). The yaw damper didn't do too good a job of coordinating turns -- saw a
consistent half-ball slip in the turns after established in the angle of bank.
Ball went back to center when wings were level.


But the slip may have been larger had the yaw damper been turned
off?...(IOW maybe it 'helped'?)
--

-Gord.