GW Bu$h's Torture Chambers and Rape rooms ...!

On Wed, 05 May 2004 03:37:21 GMT, "Morton Davis"
wrote:


"Pooched" wrote in message
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On 4 May 2004 18:07:20 -0700, (Fred the Red
Shirt) wrote:
Let's see you support your claim, for a change.

Perhaps he can refer you he


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8&selm=ef427f7c.0405030951.7fe475b6%40posting.goog le.com

This guy has Bush tinted glasses on. He won't ever understand how
sleep deprivation, beatings, being forced to stand around butt ass
naked, and other tortures are tortures.

No problem though, there's always hell or purgatory waiting for him.
=)

Howdy, ****wit. How are these improprieties equal to being hung up, naked,
by your thumbs, castrated; watching your wife, your sisters, your daughters
gang raped and murdered, and male family members castrated, beaten,
murdered, before your eyes - before you are fed feet-first, alive, into a
chipper/shredder?

-*MORT*-


sarcasm

That's not torture.

sarcasm/

On 5 May 2004 13:28:59 -0700, (Fred the Red
Shirt) wrote:
Execution of spies, sabotuers, POWs and civilians are all allowed
under the Geneva conventions. But only after conviction by a
competent court or tribunal. That last is the part you were
neglected to consider. None of the detainees at Guantanamo
have been tried at all, therefore there is no basis within the
context of the 1949 Conventions to deny them POW status.

You know, if I could speak Korean, I bet they argued along the same
lines as the Bush administration to keep our men imprisoned there long
after the war was over.

Declaing war on something that can not be defeated (drugs or terror)
is a great way to get that legal ground needed to do all sorts of fun
things as a dictator.

BUSH 2004! --- SEIG HEIL!

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"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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I've removed rec.aviation.military, and talk.politics.guns
from the distribution list in my reply as this thread was
inapproriate to both.

I post this to rec.aviation.military, talk.politics.guns so
interested parties (both of them are welcome) can follow it
in the other groups.

"fred" admits he got trounced.

If you keep this up folks will accuse me of having made
you up to be my personal straw man.

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FF

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"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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I've removed rec.aviation.military, and talk.politics.guns
from the distribution list in my reply as this thread was
inapproriate to both.

I post this to rec.aviation.military, talk.politics.guns so
interested parties (both of them are welcome) can follow it
in the other groups.

"fred" admits he got trounced.

If you keep this up folks will accuse me of having made
you up to be my personal straw man.

Evidently you don't understand the term "strawman" any better than you
understand words like "logic" and truth. You have failed to answer on point. You
have attempted to spin and lie about what others say. You are now evading.


"The comment was, "America has been routinely transferring
suspects to other countries to be tortured." There was NO support for that
claim, and you know it."

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BTW, are you aware of who it was
that set the wheels in motion on this matter?

Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My Lai.
The wheels were going in circles befor that.

No, "Fred," that is not the case. The wheels were set rolling by a
report
from a
soldier.

Free free to prove your assertion.

This from "fred" who yaps about other people not reading the papers. Look up
the
name "Specialist Joseph M. Darby." He set the ball rolling on this.

Free free to prove your assertion that anything other than a
coverup was in progress prior to the publication of the photos.

I just did, dip****. Feel free to be stomped into the dirt again like you have
been in every thread here.

To the contrary, you presented no evidence that Specialist
Joseph M. Darby even exists.

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FF

"Fred the Red Shirt"
BTW, are you aware of who it was
that set the wheels in motion on this matter?
Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My Lai.
The wheels were going in circles befor that.

No, "Fred," that is not the case.
the wheels were set rolling by
a report from a soldier.

Free free to prove your assertion.

This from "fred" who yaps about other people not reading the papers.
Look up the name "Specialist Joseph M. Darby."

He set the ball rolling on this.

Free free to prove your assertion that anything other than a
coverup was in progress prior to the publication of the photos.

I just did, dip****. Feel free to be stomped into the dirt again like you
have
been in every thread here.

To the contrary, you presented no evidence that Specialist
Joseph M. Darby even exists.


Specialist Joseph M. Darby from Somerset,Pennsylvania
High School Teacher, employer, he was working at Wendy's
to help his family, his neighbors were interviewed.
The pastor of his church was interviewed.

His teacher said, that when Darby was right,
he would not back down, but was always respectful.

All interviewed describe Darby as a super straight arrow,
with a strong sense of right and wrong.

Joseph Darby, was praised by Senator Warner,
of the Senated Armed Services Committee today,
as a "Fine American" trusting in American values
and knowing when something was wrong.

Look it up, on CSPAN.

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BTW, are you aware of who it was
that set the wheels in motion on this matter?

Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My
Lai.
The wheels were going in circles befor that.

No, "Fred," that is not the case. The wheels were set rolling by a
report
from a
soldier.

Free free to prove your assertion.

This from "fred" who yaps about other people not reading the papers.
Look up
the
name "Specialist Joseph M. Darby." He set the ball rolling on this.

Free free to prove your assertion that anything other than a
coverup was in progress prior to the publication of the photos.

I just did, dip****. Feel free to be stomped into the dirt again like you
have
been in every thread here.

To the contrary, you presented no evidence that Specialist
Joseph M. Darby even exists.

I presented you with a fact. You can't deal with it so you evade. That's all you
have.

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"Fred the Red Shirt"
BTW, are you aware of who it was
that set the wheels in motion on this matter?
Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My Lai.
The wheels were going in circles befor that.

No, "Fred," that is not the case.
the wheels were set rolling by
a report from a soldier.

Free free to prove your assertion.

This from "fred" who yaps about other people not reading the papers.
Look up the name "Specialist Joseph M. Darby."

He set the ball rolling on this.

Free free to prove your assertion that anything other than a
coverup was in progress prior to the publication of the photos.

I just did, dip****. Feel free to be stomped into the dirt again like you
have
been in every thread here.

To the contrary, you presented no evidence that Specialist
Joseph M. Darby even exists.


Specialist Joseph M. Darby from Somerset,Pennsylvania
High School Teacher, employer, he was working at Wendy's
to help his family, his neighbors were interviewed.
The pastor of his church was interviewed.

His teacher said, that when Darby was right,
he would not back down, but was always respectful.

All interviewed describe Darby as a super straight arrow,
with a strong sense of right and wrong.

Joseph Darby, was praised by Senator Warner,
of the Senated Armed Services Committee today,
as a "Fine American" trusting in American values
and knowing when something was wrong.

Look it up, on CSPAN.

It's all over the place.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact

I have no sympathy for the $hitbags in the Abu Ghraib prison. I noticed that
none of them were burnt alive, hacked up and hung from a bridge in front of a
jeering mob.

Sup with that BS? My tax dollars are being wasted!!!




The Durango 95 purred away real horrorshow. A nice warm vibratey feeling all
through your guttiwuts.

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"Fred the Red Shirt"
BTW, are you aware of who it was
that set the wheels in motion on this matter?
Yes, the anonymous sources who released the photos, just like My Lai.
The wheels were going in circles befor that.

No, "Fred," that is not the case.
the wheels were set rolling by
a report from a soldier.

Free free to prove your assertion.

This from "fred" who yaps about other people not reading the papers.
Look up the name "Specialist Joseph M. Darby."

He set the ball rolling on this.

Free free to prove your assertion that anything other than a
coverup was in progress prior to the publication of the photos.

I just did, dip****. Feel free to be stomped into the dirt again like you
have
been in every thread here.

To the contrary, you presented no evidence that Specialist
Joseph M. Darby even exists.


Specialist Joseph M. Darby from Somerset,Pennsylvania
High School Teacher, employer, he was working at Wendy's
to help his family, his neighbors were interviewed.
The pastor of his church was interviewed.

His teacher said, that when Darby was right,
he would not back down, but was always respectful.

All interviewed describe Darby as a super straight arrow,
with a strong sense of right and wrong.

Joseph Darby, was praised by Senator Warner,
of the Senated Armed Services Committee today,
as a "Fine American" trusting in American values
and knowing when something was wrong.

Look it up, on CSPAN.

It's all over the place.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact

From the source you provide:

A month later, General Karpinski was formally admonished
and quietly suspended, and a major investigation into the
Army's prison system, authorized by Lieutenant General
Ricardo S. Sanchez, the senior commander in Iraq, was
under way. A fifty-three-page report, obtained by The New
Yorker, written by Major General Antonio M. Taguba and not
meant for public release, was completed in late February.

Sounds like a coverup to me.

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FF