Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.

WalterM140 wrote:

Can you show a source that Bush did volunteer for duty overseas?
Because in February, 1968, he declined to do so.

What possible difference could it make? I doubt that the majority of
rated officers on active duty during those years did specifically
volunteer for Viet Nam.

I did specifically volunteer, and even received an assignment that I
requested, so maybe you liberals will nominate me for President at the
upcoming convention, eh? Or if not me, then Ed Rasimus certainly.

Oh wait, I forgot: you only support people who volunteer to lead public
demonstrations against their own government, and who are revered by our
enemies for their voluntary assistance.


Jack

ArtKramr wrote:

The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed.

Now that's interesting, Art -- just the sort of input this newsgroup needs.


Jack

Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: Jack
Date: 7/13/2004 9:44 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

ArtKramr wrote:

The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory
with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I
have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It
was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed.

Now that's interesting, Art -- just the sort of input this newsgroup needs.


Jack


Yeah. We ought to get back to military aviation.


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(WalterM140) wrote in message ...

Bush recalls that toward the end of his training, he
volunteered for the "Palace Alert" program

Contemporary proof, please.

Proof of what, exactly? You miss the point entirely. Even if,
contrary to reason, we accept hsi word that he volunteered for the
Palace Alert program, it is still a lie to claim that he volunteered
for Vietnam somce the Palace Alert program did not send F 102 pilots
to Vietnam.

....
No one, to my knowledge, has come forward to say they saw
Bush after Mid- 1972.


To the contrary, lots of folks claim to have seen Bush after mid-1972.
Most recently (contemporary proof), and most unfortunately, he has
been seen in and around the White House.

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FF

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote in message ...
....

The smart guys filled in all the blocks with countries to which
they couldn't be assigned... they had volunteered, but not been
selected for any location in the world.

How woud it come about that a person couldn't be assigned to some
particular country?

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FF

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote in message ...
....

The smart guys filled in all the blocks with countries to which
they couldn't be assigned... they had volunteered, but not been
selected for any location in the world.

How woud it come about that a person couldn't be assigned to some
particular country?

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FF

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:47:57 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

Yeah. We ought to get back to military aviation.

OK.
I can't imagine our friends in the Soviet Air Force were all that
happy about you folks swanning around their area of influence
taking pictures and to put it mildly they were not ones for observing
proprieties when they felt their interests needed protecting.
Did they ever try to seriously interfere with the effrot?

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Mike Williamson wrote in message ...


Of course he knew about the Golf Courses- he volunteered for
deployment to Vietnam, as you have known for some time, as it came
up several times in the newspapers, these forums, and even
television news.


Nonsense.

http://www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm

Bush recalls that toward the end of his training, he
volunteered for the "Palace Alert" program ...
In any event,
he couldn't have been sent to Southeast Asia to take
part in the Vietnam War, at least not to fly a Delta
Dagger: the F-102 detachments in Vietnam and Thailand
were shut down in December 1969, before Bush got his wings.

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FF

Mike Marron wrote in message . ..
(ArtKramr) wrote:
Mike Williamson wrote:

The volunteering for deployment in the F-102 was covered quite
some time ago- during the 2000 Presidential campaign, as I recall..

The man didn't want to fight. End of story.

All that truly matters is that the man wants to fight NOW. End of
story.

I think it matters a bit that we were attacked by Saudi Arabians,
led by a Saudi Arabian exiled to Afghanistan and he wants to fight
Iraq.

Let's elect a President with a better grasp of geography.

And while we're at it, no more oil barons in the White House.

No more chicken-hawks in the Pentagon.

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FF

(Smartace11) wrote in message ...


Why is that a point worth debating?


It is only worth debating when someone makes a claim beyond historical
reality.

...
You guys are trying to put way too much spin in this.
GWB followed a path that
others that I knew did either by choice, political
influence, or luck of the
draw. Algore clearly did the same with his assignment
as a press officer.

The fact that Al Gore could read and write probably helped but
your point is well made.


To me the only thing that is totally unfathomable is why a decorated Vietnam
vet would hook up with the likes of Jane Fonda and her crowd to protest the war
unless it was to gain political traction under a Republican president.


Politics does make for strange bedfellows. But also keep in in mind
when it was that Kerry left the Vietnam Veterans Against the War to
run for office.

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FF